NL re-raise rule

ChuckyB · #1 09-13-2007, 04:33 AM

It got boned at our casino tonight. 1/2 NL. Dude leads for $40, MP goes all-in for $77, CO calls $77, Dude re-raises to $150, CO goes WTF?!?!

Floor rules that since the raise was more than half the original bet, Dude is allowed to re-raise.

Ai yi yi.

Anyway...I was trying to figure out the origin/purpose of this rule in NL. Is it to prevent collusion?

parisron · #2 09-13-2007, 05:36 AM

in no limit it has to be a raise for the full min. raise on a all in, in order to reopen the raising to the bettor. in limit half a raise will reopen.

Woolygimp · #3 09-13-2007, 06:34 AM

$40 open raises at 1/2 NL?

That's like opening for $200 in 5/10.

cute...lol

SellingtheDrama · #4 09-13-2007, 08:39 AM

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$40 open raises at 1/2 NL?

That's like opening for $200 in 5/10.

cute...lol

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Which I have actually seen...

Woolygimp · #5 09-13-2007, 08:53 AM

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$40 open raises at 1/2 NL?

That's like opening for $200 in 5/10.

cute...lol

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Which I have actually seen...

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and it's cute everytime a donk does this, they flip over AA and say, :i'd rather win a small pot with aces than lose a big one...

corsakh · #6 09-13-2007, 09:25 AM

Floor is correct, half the size of the original raise constitutes a new raise. In some places though only the full size counts, its a matter of house rules.

RR · #7 09-13-2007, 10:28 AM

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The floor is correct in places that don't understand poker. I would say in at least 50% of the rooms that allow this half bet to reopen action they actually have copied a rules from some place that says it is a full bet and they just don't realize that limit and NL are different games.

Mike Gallo · #8 09-13-2007, 09:31 AM

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$40 open raises at 1/2 NL?

That's like opening for $200 in 5/10.

cute...lol

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Which I have actually seen...

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ChuckyB · #9 09-13-2007, 01:09 PM

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$40 open raises at 1/2 NL?

That's like opening for $200 in 5/10.

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This was EP leading on the flop for $40 in a good-sized pot.

bav · #10 09-13-2007, 04:37 PM

It also might seem silly to quibble over $1, but it's important. We had a raise from $2 to $40 (+$38) and then an all-in for $77 (+$37). He missed a fullsize raise by $1.

But I pay very close attention to these things in NL games and I often carefully size my bets based on what will happen to the betting if a shortstack behind me all-ins to be sure I can raise to isolate if it happens. Or I may call in such a situation knowing the original better can't reraise after a shortstack all-ins. So it would be very unfair to the CO who called to let the original raiser hit the pot again even though we're arguing over $1--it matters.

EP shoulda paid attention to the shortstack behind him and raised to $39 instead of $40. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]