4/180 L1 JJ UTG lots of action overpair OTF

[DEADALIVE]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t1660)
CO (t1200)
Button (t1390)
SB (t2110)
BB (t1440)
Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1480)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1220)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t70</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t70, MP2 calls t70, MP3 calls t70, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t60, BB calls t50.

Flop: (t420) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t1150</font>, MP3 folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1370</font>, Hero???

[All_In_Olly]

This early there are many very bad players, and with an overpair here it's very +EV to get it all in.

You'll be up against flush draws, guys with A9,88, but also complete rubbish like J4 will go AI here, it's amazing really.

Don't underestimate how wide the ranges will be, shove for sure.

[FGators]

This is a fold. If it was folded back to BB and he pushed I would probably snap call but there is just too much action for JJ to be good.

Expect a set of 4s or 2s for MP and probably a flush draw for the BB.

[SuperUberBob]

Fold flop. Flop raise is perfect. But the shove and then a BB re-shove (who led the flop) would be enough to get me out of the hand. I have a feeling that at least one opponent here flopped a set.

[mflip]

They definitely don't need a set here. A9 for one and an FD for the other is believable. I think they both have ranges of something like 22,44,99+,A9,Axss,KQss.

[dudeoflife]

Insta call, don't fold when you might have the winning hand.

[jafeather]

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They definitely don't need a set here. A9 for one and an FD for the other is believable. I think they both have ranges of something like 22,44,99+,A9,Axss,KQss.

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If you put both villains on this range, this becomes a super-easy fold.



equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.407% 15.71% 00.70% 339330 15057.00 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 41.797% 40.92% 00.87% 883967 18827.50 { 99+, 44, 22, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, KsQs, A9o }
Hand 2: 41.797% 40.92% 00.87% 883967 18827.50 { 99+, 44, 22, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, KsQs, A9o }

[dave6]

Call this. You're getting 3.7 to 1 odds, and this is the first level of a 4/180, so opponents' ranges are very wide. Since when did 4/180 players need an ace kicker to get all their money in with top pair? You'll often see K9/T9/89 here. They could have 55-88 and be "putting you on AK". They could be overplaying AK/AQ themselves. You'll see OESDs (and gutshots) here. BB bet 60 chips into a 420 pot, so he's unlikely to be a thinking player.

There's no way you're running into sets and slowplayed QQ+ often enough to fold JJ here with the odds you're getting. You only need to win this 21% of the time to justify the call.

[Fantam]

Wow ! Lots of posters want to call the 2 shoves.

I prefer to agree with the few who have said to fold.

I know that you get lots of players early in a tournament that overplay their hands. However, when you have more than 1 player going all-in, when they were not under pressure to do so, I think the likelihood of a strong hand increases.