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Old 11-11-2007, 11:04 AM
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I have the right answer and can prove it as much as a man can prove that 2+2 = 4 but whats your opinions?
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:44 AM
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:50 AM
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I define free will as the belief that, although I just made choice C, I could have made choice !C.

In other words, I define "free will" as an experiential label, not a metaphysical property. This definition solves the "problem" of free will by converting it to a tautological psychologism.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:12 PM
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I define free will as the belief that, although I just made choice C, I could have made choice !C.

In other words, I define "free will" as an experiential label, not a metaphysical property. This definition solves the "problem" of free will by converting it to a tautological psychologism.

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take yourself less seriously?
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:24 PM
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Um, what level are you on? I don't get it.

It's just clearer to write "I define" than "Some people define". Sorry if that offended your delicate sensibilities.

Do you have any comments on the actual topic?
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:30 PM
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Do you have any comments on the actual topic?

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yes
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:37 PM
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Any thoughts on the implications of free will not existing?
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:53 AM
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There is no free will. The future already exists. At the root of everything are tiny mathematical formula/number series. However, there might be branching timeline/universes, in which case you get the illusion of freewill. If that's true, then you if you have to choose between A and B, you'll choose both, 1 in each branching timeline.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:52 PM
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I define free will as the belief that, although I just made choice C, I could have made choice !C.

In other words, I define "free will" as an experiential label, not a metaphysical property. This definition solves the "problem" of free will by converting it to a tautological psychologism.

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take yourself less seriously?

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Subfallen, to some of us lesser mortals, it is difficult to understand what you are saying at times due to the language you use.

This is in no way a slur or attack on you, more a compliment i suppose, but this is not the first post you have made that has left me thinking 'WTF?'

As I have already said, this highlights my lack of vocabulary, and is not supposed to be negative towards you in any way. I just thought it might help you to understand the reply you recieved.
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:10 PM
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Subfallen, to some of us lesser mortals, it is difficult to understand what you are saying at times due to the language you use.

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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Part of the problem may be that I haven't read anything but philosophy for 3-4 months now. Here's a sample from what I'm reading at the moment, Heidegger's Being and Time (Macquarrie & Robinson translation):

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Primordially 'truth' means the same as 'being-disclosive', as a way in which Dasein behaves. From this comes the derivative signification: 'the uncoveredness of entities'. Correspondingly, 'certainty', in its primordial signification, is tantamount to 'Being-certain', as a kind of Being which belongs to Dasein. However, in a derivative signification, any entity of which Dasein can be certain will also get called something 'certain'.

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And that's an unusually concrete analysis for Heidegger. On the average he stays more abstract, along the lines of:

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The character of understanding as projection is constitutive for Being-in-the-world with regard to the disclosedness of its existentially constitutive state-of-Being by which the factical potentiality-for-Being gets its leeway.

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