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Old 10-02-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

Villain reraised and called a shove with AJ on a 9 high flop earlier, same deal with Q8 on T97. His raising range preflop is pretty standard. Post flop he is a bit random but kind of a nutcase with his draws. I've been taking down a lot of these mid-size pots lately so I assume he is pretty anxious for payback.

I think I butchered this hand pretty badly.

PokerStars Game #12401177229: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/10/02 - 18:45:56 (ET)
Table 'Ducrosa' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: JnyRcktFngr ($201.70 in chips)
Seat 2: xSCWx ($181.40 in chips)

JnyRcktFngr: posts small blind $0.50
xSCWx: posts big blind $1

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xSCWx [J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
JnyRcktFngr: raises $2 to $3
xSCWx: calls $2

*** FLOP *** [J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
xSCWx: checks
JnyRcktFngr: bets $4
xSCWx: raises $9 to $13
JnyRcktFngr: raises $22 to $35
xSCWx: calls $22

*** TURN *** [J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
xSCWx: checks
JnyRcktFngr: bets $49
xSCWx: calls $49

*** RIVER *** [J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
xSCWx: bets $94.40 and is all-in


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I'm pretty sure I butchered this hand. I figure his hand range here generally consists of a flush draw, an overpair, AJ(?), low 2 pair, or a set.

Flop: I think I should have folded here.
Turn: I think after calling the flop I have to be calling the turn here. My hand improved, his almost definitely didn't.
River: I figure I am calling an all in here anyways, so I may as well make sure he can't check behind with anything I beat.

Revised hand look good?
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

i am def folding this flop

pushing this turn is a no brainer for me, even this deep

as played i'm calling the river and usually losing to a set
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

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i am def folding this flop

pushing this turn is a no brainer for me, even this deep

as played i'm calling the river and usually losing to a set

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I'm the one who bet river. Or do you check/call?
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

oh i didn't see that you shoved the river, i thought he shoved on you.

yeah, i am def shoving this if i am fist to act

btw, you have made too much money off me, and i try to avoid you from now on
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

in SNGs?

who are you? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

I really don't like the flop c/r especially 200bbs deep. If he does anything but fold you hate your life on 50%+ of turn cards. Just c/c and see what happens on the turn.

Given the flop action, the turn seems fine. CRAI only seems like a good idea if you want to make sure you're getting all your money in behind.

I'm torn on the river bet, but I think I like it. His hand looks like an overpair/set/2pr, and your hand looks a lot like a flush draw. So if you think he's likely to check behind with the majority of those hands on the river (I'd say he probably will), then I like your bet.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

yep.. butcher sounds about right.
first you dont want to raise the pot OOP with a hand like that ..so i would just ck call the flop seeing how aggressive he has been.. turn u could lead little less than 3/4 or u can ck call .. river you might put in a value bet or if u think hell make a stab u can ck call. and if he shoves on your value bet... thats a tough one
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

I don't mind the flop C/R as you can't let your opponents just always think they can fire a free bullet on you. Once he raises, I fold. If he 3 bets a FD in position, then good for him.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

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I really don't like the flop c/r especially 200bbs deep. If he does anything but fold you hate your life on 50%+ of turn cards. Just c/c and see what happens on the turn.

Given the flop action, the turn seems fine. CRAI only seems like a good idea if you want to make sure you're getting all your money in behind.

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I think the scare card issue should be more of an argument in favor of a check raise on this flop than against it. Probably 90% of the time on this flop facing a cbet you are ahead, and check/raising is the only way to punish the guys who cbet almost every flop. I don't find that I get called here very often.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: NLCASH .5/1 - Top pair crappy kicker, turns FD, rivers 2pr

Providing you have been actively checkraising flops with a healthy range, I like your play on all streets and would call river vs villain you describe. I do think your line would've been better had you been shallower.
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