16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board - Page 2

vers · #11 10-16-2007, 11:34 PM

If he is only calling QQ+, AK shoving ATC is profitable. Readless I don't know his calling range and I think I might get called by like TT/JJ here as well. If his range is TT+, AK, shoving QJo is slightly +ev. With a shorty there, I can't see any big stack calling any LOOSER than that.

I agree that shoving pre is decent, but readless, I doubt that opponent will re-raise me all in and steal my 600 raise (obviously against a good opponent I would not open myself up to a resteal like this).

Anyways, I'm not concerned about pre as I think both raising and shoving are fine, depending on quality of the opponent. Folding is ridiculous as I have a slight chip lead and a decent hand 4 handed and I should be able to pick up an easy pot here.

There's little possibility that he has 2 suited spades and would play a flopped flush like this.

Any thoughts about the flop?

jkpoker · #12 10-17-2007, 01:54 AM

shove/fold PF you shouldnt be in that situation.

Folding isnt ridiculous due to the stacks being so close and its 200bb

risk vs reward

Raise = worst thing because he could have easily shoved ATC pf and your just stuck because the stacks are even

vers · #13 10-17-2007, 02:05 AM

I doubt that most players (other then good regulars) would shove ATC against my open raise. Though I was readless, I know he wasn't on any of my tables, so not a multitabler (probably) and not a regular. Therefore, I don't think he's going to exploit my pfr. Against a regular I shove.

hernandez · #14 10-17-2007, 02:52 AM

Push flop? Don't want to give villain the chance to make a semibluff in this awkward bubble situation. He is not
calling with just a flush draw but might call with 2 pair (which would be good for us).

vers · #15 10-17-2007, 03:10 AM

pushing flop is something I didn't think of to eliminate giving BB a chance to semibluff. Villain had top and bottom, my straight held...

rakemeplz · #16 10-17-2007, 03:38 AM

Agree with the guy who said push flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Gotta blunt his weapons.

hoyasnaxa · #17 10-17-2007, 03:46 AM

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push this pre? i dont mind the raise

sbj · #18 10-17-2007, 08:26 AM

I like it just the way you played it. Yes it's true you might be against a made flush (or more likely a flush draw that hits) here and risk finishing fourth but more likely you win this moster pit and own 80% of the chips on the table giving you a very solid chance of finishing 1st.