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#91
09-15-2007, 08:31 AM
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Re: high stakes absolute players
I've been waiting for this thread for almost 2 months.
I've played 10 sessions vs. GRAYCAT and I really think there's a very good chance he's cheating. It's like others have said above me, he plays like he can see people's holecards. In the 1M+ hands I've played online, I've never seen anyone play like GRAYCAT. The first few sessions he was just the big fish 3betting UTG raisers with J3o in a 150/300 full ring game. And I thought it was funny when I heard he had already won like 60k that day playing that way. But over the next few days/weeks I noticed something wasn't right. I analyzed his stats and all my hands on him and became more convinced that he's cheating. These are all my hands I have on him. His preflop numbers and his showdown numbers just don't combine like Schneids said. I didn't notice the river AF until now, very interesting. We really should all combine our data like Dan Druff sugested and get a big enough sample to be able to do something about this. 
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#92
09-15-2007, 08:40 AM
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Re: high stakes absolute players
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I've been waiting for this thread for almost 2 months. I've played 10 sessions vs. GRAYCAT and I really think there's a very good chance he's cheating. It's like others have said above me, he plays like he can see people's holecards. In the 1M+ hands I've played online, I've never seen anyone play like GRAYCAT. The first few sessions he was just the big fish 3betting UTG raisers with J3o in a 150/300 full ring game. And I thought it was funny when I heard he had already won like 60k that day playing that way. But over the next few days/weeks I noticed something wasn't right. I analyzed his stats and all my hands on him and became more convinced that he's cheating. These are all my hands I have on him. His preflop numbers and his showdown numbers just don't combine like Schneids said. I didn't notice the river AF until now, very interesting. We really should all combine our data like Dan Druff sugested and get a big enough sample to be able to do something about this. [/ QUOTE ] Geffer, I can't even see his River Agression at 200/400. Is it like higher than 20? 25?
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#94
09-15-2007, 09:07 AM
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Re: high stakes absolute players
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I can't even see his River Agression at 200/400. Is it like higher than 20? 25? [/ QUOTE ] it's infinite. i may be out of line saying this, but i wouldn't be surprised if this player was in some way affiliated with AP.
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#96
09-15-2007, 09:38 AM
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Re: high stakes absolute players
A few hands vs GRAYCAT, I have more [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
Hand 1: Absolute Poker 150/300 Hold'em (3 handed) by Hand Converter CG Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Button folds, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks. Turn: (2 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks. River: (2 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds. Final Pot: 3 BB Outcome: Hero wins 3 BB. Hand 2: <font color="blue">GRAYCAT is BB in this hand. Coldcaps preflop and then check/folds flop. </font> Absolute Poker 200/400 Hold'em (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls. Hand 3: Absolute Poker 200/400 Hold'em (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, Button checks. Turn: (2.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, Button checks. River: (2.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds. Final Pot: 3.25 BB Hero has 6d Kd (three of a kind, kings). Outcome: Hero wins 3.25 BB.
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#98
09-15-2007, 10:46 AM
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Re: high stakes absolute players
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A few hands vs GRAYCAT, I have more [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Hand 1: Absolute Poker 150/300 Hold'em (3 handed) by Hand Converter CG Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Button folds, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks. Turn: (2 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks. River: (2 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds. Final Pot: 3 BB Outcome: Hero wins 3 BB. Hand 2: <font color="blue">GRAYCAT is BB in this hand. Coldcaps preflop and then check/folds flop. </font> Absolute Poker 200/400 Hold'em (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls. Hand 3: Absolute Poker 200/400 Hold'em (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, Button checks. Turn: (2.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, Button checks. River: (2.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds. Final Pot: 3.25 BB Hero has 6d Kd (three of a kind, kings). Outcome: Hero wins 3.25 BB. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, this thread is a serious kick int the nuts to all of us non conspiracy theorists. Hand 2 is so insane. For christs sake, when would any player in any game at any stakes coldcap out of the BB and check fold a 225r flop. That doesn't even make sense if he misclicked.
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#99
09-15-2007, 10:53 AM
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Re: high stakes absolute players
This is really, really odd. If people want I can make a new PT DB and everyone here can send there AP HHs to me - I can do some very nice statistical analysis of his hands, I'm trained in that area.
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