2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

[PokerBob]

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this is hilarious. someone created a site where pbob runs hot and crushes all.


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i just saw that. I have $37k and the next guy has $2500. this clearly cannot be real, as no site would ever let me win.

[mtgordon]

So Sonia 3bets pf w/K9o then caps the flop w/gutshot + 2 overs? Something seems fishy.

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PokerYoda [ Ts Js ]
<rick_rolled> calls [$1]
<phaethon> raises [$2]
<BaronKedal> folds
Sonia raises [$3]
PokerYoda folds
<MrRedpoint> calls [$2]
<rick_rolled> calls [$2]
<phaethon> raises [$2]
Sonia calls [$1]
<MrRedpoint> calls [$1]
<rick_rolled> calls [$1]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 6s, 5d ]
<MrRedpoint> checks
<rick_rolled> checks
<phaethon> bets [$1]
Sonia calls [$1]
<MrRedpoint> calls [$1]
<rick_rolled> raises [$2]
<phaethon> raises [$2]
Sonia raises [$3]
<MrRedpoint> folds
<rick_rolled> calls [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$1]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
<rick_rolled> bets [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$2]
Sonia calls [$2]
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
<rick_rolled> bets [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$2]
Sonia raises [$4]
<rick_rolled> raises [$4]
<phaethon> calls [$4]
Sonia raises [$4]
<rick_rolled> calls [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$2]
Sonia shows [ Kc, 9h ] A Nine High Straight
<rick_rolled> shows [ 7c, 9s ] A Nine High Straight
<phaethon> doesn't show [ Qd, Qc ] Two Pair, Queens and Fives
Sonia wins $29.75 from the main pot with A Nine High Straight
<rick_rolled> wins $29.75 from the main pot with A Nine High Straight

[yellowjack]

This is mostly for Aaron W, example from Sonia:

[DeathDonkey]

Is it bad that I don't want to pay Sonia for advice because I want to have more virtual $ so I'm higher on the leaderboard?

-DeathDonkey

[inferno]

guess what virtual me doesnt play like me

[PokerParadimeMk]

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I am also interested in how much lhe poker-specific information is needed to "train" Sofia?

Reading the description on the website, it sounds as if almost none is required. That is, it sounds as if Sofia is a general engine that needs nothing more than the game rules in order to work its magic, but that seems pretty difficult to believe.

For example, did you have to define situational categories like board textures, betting sequences, etc, that Sofia knew it needed to collect data on and base modelling on? Or was Sofia somehow able to create those categories herself (that seems almost impossible to me)?

J

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There is some information about this on the Technology page, but basically we do translate game events into a more digestible form for Sonia first (e.g. current pot size, who last bet, the button position etc.). This translation stage can be thought of as her basic set of 'sensory connectors' to the outside world. However, the derivation of meaning from this information, how to use it, when it's important etc. is entirely self learnt by Sonia during her initial training phase, and then ongoing on the site as she interacts with real human players.

The fact that this very thin sensory layer can be replaced by a different layer is what should make her suitable for use in other domains.

I hope this goes some way to answering your questions.


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Also, why does sonia not get the <> around her name if she is also a virtual player?

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Sonia is not a model of any player, hence no <>.


Mark

[ProfessorBen]

Scary_Tiger
Ranking: 105th
Bankroll: $45

SCARY TIGER BUSTO!

[gaming_mouse]

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There is some information about this on the Technology page, but basically we do translate game events into a more digestible form for Sonia first (e.g. current pot size, who last bet, the button position etc.). This translation stage can be thought of as her basic set of 'sensory connectors' to the outside world. However, the derivation of meaning from this information, how to use it, when it's important etc. is entirely self learnt by Sonia during her initial training phase, and then ongoing on the site as she interacts with real human players.

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Mark,

This makes sense to me. Also, it seem that if this is the case then by creating an appropriately fine-grained sensory layer Sonia should be able to perform decently to very well in other variants of poker.

Have you guys tested her in NL games yet, eg?

Thanks,
Jonah