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Old 11-30-2007, 06:04 AM
vulturesrow vulturesrow is offline
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Default Re: Could We Have Won Vietnam?

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In a strictly military sense, we won the war.

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The vietnam war was won, without a doubt by the Vietcong! It was a humiliating defeat for the US strategists.

The OP question is of little import, it implies a great big "If" and many subordinates ones. To me Vietnam was the first objective sign of the weakening of American imperialism. It has gone downhill ever since. It simply showed that technological superiority has little to do with cultural will and history.

US:Vietcong - 0:1

Simple as. Of course, there are many revisionists views in the US, as other wars have been lost by the US also, since. Not all, but a sufficient numbers, to question US world superiority! I mean the US could not even achieve a victory against Cuba! Cuba is still there thumbing its nose at the US! Talk about David and Goliath! LOL!

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LOL!!!!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] !!!!! Americans so bad at war.

Im disappointed, you didnt work in an anti-Bush rant as well. Troll on troll, troll on! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:13 AM
MidGe MidGe is offline
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Default Re: Could We Have Won Vietnam?

vulturesrow

I think that anybody with a modicum of intelligence would say that the claim that in a strictly military sense, the US won the war in Vietnam, must be the obvious troll's claim. What next? the US is winning in Iraq? ORLY

That you may try to portray me as a troll, whatever your reasons, I can accept. That the majority of the posters on this forum, or any other forums, would agree with my accusing you of trolling in the above statement is also self-evident.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: Could We Have Won Vietnam?

Uhm, define winning? Winning as in killing more people than you lose? Winning as in carpet bombing the country until it looks like a desert?

In that case, yes, the US would've won. If that is your definition of winning then the attacking side usually wins.

However, you must compare the original goals of the war with the outcome of the war. IMHO, this is the only good definition of winning a war.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Could We Have Won Vietnam?

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vulturesrow

I think that anybody with a modicum of intelligence would say that the claim that in a strictly military sense, the US won the war in Vietnam, must be the obvious troll's claim. What next? the US is winning in Iraq? ORLY

That you may try to portray me as a troll, whatever your reasons, I can accept. That the majority of the posters on this forum, or any other forums, would agree with my accusing you of trolling in the above statement is also self-evident.

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Who is winning the Iraq War?
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:07 PM
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vulturesrow

I think that anybody with a modicum of intelligence would say that the claim that in a strictly military sense, the US won the war in Vietnam, must be the obvious troll's claim. What next? the US is winning in Iraq? ORLY

That you may try to portray me as a troll, whatever your reasons, I can accept. That the majority of the posters on this forum, or any other forums, would agree with my accusing you of trolling in the above statement is also self-evident.

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Who is winning the Iraq War?

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Saddam Hussein obv.
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