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Old 07-28-2007, 04:36 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

Comments on all action is appreciated. Very new to PLO.

Villain had been playing a lot of pots and is fairly aggressive. But most of this aggressiveness was in the form of donking a lot of flops.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $221
UTG+1: $200.40
CO: $55
Button: $252.65
SB: $54.20
BB: $302.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $60</font>, Hero ????
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

Shove.
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:43 PM
Poker monkey Poker monkey is offline
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

Couldn't you just call here with position? Are you much of a favourite over anything that check-raises this flop, and will he fold anything?
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:47 PM
TheRempel TheRempel is offline
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

No you shove because with your overpair + tons of blockers you can be a huge favorite over a bare wrap and flipping with almost everything else.
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

bet/shove looks pretty standard here. You are ahead of most two pair hands. Most aggro villains flop checkraising ranges are wide enough that he might try this with a hand like AJ108 or some other pair/straight draw combo hand, which you are in great shape against. I think if you were somewhat deeper bet/call would be OK just to try and spike your straight, but the problem with that line here is if he is making this move with a better wrap and no pair you allow hime to play it perfectly by calling. If you call and he decides to shove a blank turn or one that pairs the board you are in a bad spot. If a J or a Q come on the turn, he may have made bigger straight if he was checkraising a KQJx type hand. Your not in bad shape against almost any thing here since you have an overpair, 16 outs to a straight (11 to the nut straight), a backdoor flush draw, and board pairing outs against two pair. With close to 100bb stacks you need to just put the money in here.
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

gogogogogogogo
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:26 PM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

Yeah, looks like everyone else covered it. Easy, easy shove here. You've got 16 outs to the nuts plus a hand that can hold up UI if villian's got a worse wrap with no overpair. Also, against two pair, we have 19 outs on the flop and 22 on a blank turn making us solid favorites.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:35 PM
RoundTower RoundTower is offline
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

shove, the overpair is an important part of your hand here.
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

u have 49% just against TTT (surprise for me)
so its insta shove (very surprise for me)
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: 200PLO: Wrap facing a big raise.

i play a lot of hands most of the time but i don't raise this one preflop.
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