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Old 10-23-2007, 06:45 PM
primetime32 primetime32 is offline
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Default Re: AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

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, I am mainly going as a representative for 2p2,

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HI N 82 50 24:

I'm sorry but you do not represent Two Plus Two. That authorization can only from me.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Thank you, who the hell is this Nat and why would I think he should be speaking for me or any other poker player. I've been playing online since the inception of online poker and I have no clue who he is.

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Ban for stupidity please!!!!

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Old 10-23-2007, 06:58 PM
Cry Me A River Cry Me A River is offline
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Default Re: AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

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Post any non-sensitive info questions in this thread. I will ultimately decide what I will actually ask and report back on, but teddyfbi asked for a forum to ask questions. I can do that for 2p2 and P5s.

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Semi-Grunching (skimmed the thread).

Follow the money.

(Yeah, I heard that in a movie).

Since we now have allegations that this has been going on a long time, see if you can pin down how much money was removed from the site, HOW, where it went and what kind of time frame. This info may not be available (auditors) but maybe you can get a sense of the scope. Are they looking at a couple months, or years?

In addition, maybe clarify apparent need for chip dumping at all. Presumably this was to circumvent whatever auditing WAS in place for cash-outs. However, it seems strange that cash-outs from presumably trusted heads of the company would be examined but at the same time AP was completely unable to detect obvious chip dumping in these cash-out verifications. (That is, if a VP cashing out six figures would have raised red flags, how could the chip dumping NOT have raised red flags?)

Does AP now have the capability to detect chip dumping?
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:27 PM
wolfbeo wolfbeo is offline
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Default Re: AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

nat,

i'm sure you know this- but anyway: ask VERY concrete questions (not "when was acount xxx created", but "on which day was it creates").

insist on concrete answers. if the person you talk to says he doesn't know those detail - ask for the person who does. if say to you, they can't tell because of ongoing-investigation/security - make them explain why.

take extensive notes and review them daily and intensely - if there is something unclear or easy to misunderstand, ask again.

they are going to lull you - be a polite pain in the a**, they wanted you down there.

be sure to take second person. someone who complements your assets.

and yeah, please ask them for the technical details, how the cheating was done.

sorry for the gibberish, buts is verry late over here.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:02 PM
hoppscot22 hoppscot22 is offline
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Default Re: AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

Trying to bury AP is just flat out dumb, and shouldnt even be talked about anymore IMO.

what you guys are doing (Nat, Adan, Snaggle, etc) is very much appreciated.

It sounds to me like AP is doing as much damage control as they can right now, and that this trip is just another measure.

I really think it could be a beneficial trip, and would appreciate you taking the time and energy to go about it, even with compensation. Your report, though it might not be completely comprehensive considering AP will more than likely hold back information, would be another step in the right direction. Hopefully we continue in this direction (the right one) rather then going back to the deceitful, money hungry direction that AP was headed in recent times.
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