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11-09-2007, 02:13 PM
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Re: Have a found a reason why AC will fail, that ACists will agree wit
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A large majority of the female population doesn't like rich successful men? [/ QUOTE ] To the exclusion of all other considerations? No! [ QUOTE ] There are also a number of incentives that exist such as tax credits, as well as it's illegal to have more then one wife. [/ QUOTE ] Minor tax credits are irrelevant to the rich and who the hell cares about whether the government "officially" recognizes your relationship? If a woman just wants money, why would she care about a government sanctioned message? 
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11-09-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: Have a found a reason why AC will fail, that ACists will agree wit
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What about the fact that, even though (some) women are attracted to rich, successful men, (for others, it's not an issue) the number of women who would tolerate being one of many wives has to be extremely low. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know if that is because currently there aren't any good arrangement to be had. And the government actively prevents this type of free arrangements, as well as coerced ones. I don't really know at this point I'm speculated that the people who gain the most from the current marriage regulations are the vast majority of men, who otherwise would not be able to find a mate, or if they were able to find a mate, a much lower quality one would be all that was available. Or it could just be social conditioning, or it's possible it biological. Rational self interest would seem that women would be better to share 1/5 of a men worth 6 times as much as the one she could get currently. You could be right that women wouldn't tolerate it for the most part, I'm not certain.
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11-09-2007, 02:22 PM
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People engage in monogamy for the tax credits? [/ QUOTE ] Not exactly, People engage in marriage for economic reasons as well. [ QUOTE ] People who get married never sleep with anyone but their spouse because that's the law? [/ QUOTE ] No, I can't answer the question why don't people break the law currently if being one of multiple wives is such a great economic deal. I'd assume there a plenty of reasons.
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11-09-2007, 02:25 PM
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Rational self interest would seem that women would be better to share 1/5 of a men worth 6 times as much as the one she could get currently. [/ QUOTE ] Here is a flaw in your development. A woman may "value" a man at 6 times the value of another man, given that she would be the only partner of each man. When you add in the dynamic affect that the "benefit" of the man may have to be shared, then she may prefer to take the "crappy" spouse all for herself rather than share the Brad Pitt spouse. Therefore she would pick the crappier spouse totally out her self interest based motives. You are assuming that the valuations women make given the current social norm of monogamy would remain unchanged when the social norm of monogamy is removed. This should be obviously false.
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11-09-2007, 02:25 PM
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who the hell cares about whether the government "officially" recognizes your relationship? [/ QUOTE ] This is a ridiculous question. There are a number of people fighting for just that right. [ QUOTE ] If a woman just wants money, why would she care about a government sanctioned message? [/ QUOTE ] It's not that I think a women just wants money, I can see why you went there, but that needn't be the case.
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11-09-2007, 02:31 PM
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Here is a flaw in your development. A woman may "value" a man at 6 times the value of another man, given that she would be the only partner of each man. When you add in the dynamic affect that the "benefit" of the man may have to be shared, then she may prefer to take the "crappy" spouse all for herself rather than share the Brad Pitt spouse. Therefore she would pick the crappier spouse totally out her self interest based motives. [/ QUOTE ] Certainly there is a point where she would choose the shared "better" spouse over the exclusive "crappy" one?
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11-09-2007, 02:31 PM
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Rational self interest would seem that women would be better to share 1/5 of a men worth 6 times as much as the one she could get currently. [/ QUOTE ] No, it doesn't. Very few people care only about money. Even if she doesn't care about sexual satisfaction (HA!), she certainly cares about emotional fulfillment. Most people get in relationships for sex and emotions, not for money. Maybe women take money into consideration as well, but they still want the sex and love more than anything else, and 20% of a man's sex and love when many women aren't even fulfilled by 100% is crazy talk.
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11-09-2007, 02:34 PM
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I can't answer the question why don't people break the law currently if being one of multiple wives is such a great economic deal. I'd assume there a plenty of reasons. [/ QUOTE ] You don't need to break the law to have multiple "wives" you just have to not get "official" state-santioned marriages, which makes very, very little real difference.
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11-09-2007, 02:38 PM
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Re: Have a found a reason why AC will fail, that ACists will agree wit
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[ QUOTE ] Here is a flaw in your development. A woman may "value" a man at 6 times the value of another man, given that she would be the only partner of each man. When you add in the dynamic affect that the "benefit" of the man may have to be shared, then she may prefer to take the "crappy" spouse all for herself rather than share the Brad Pitt spouse. Therefore she would pick the crappier spouse totally out her self interest based motives. [/ QUOTE ] Certainly there is a point where she would choose the shared "better" spouse over the exclusive "crappy" one? [/ QUOTE ] Don't forget that the man has to want her aswel. If she's desirable enough to be one of Bill Gates' 40 wives then her other option is probably not frank the gas station attendant, its probably a pretty good life overall.
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11-09-2007, 02:39 PM
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Certainly there is a point where she would choose the shared "better" spouse over the exclusive "crappy" one? [/ QUOTE ] Yes - SOME men would conceivably have multiple spouses, SOME women would have multiple spouses, SOME people would have one spouse only, SOME people would have same sex relationships. So what? You have NO idea how the social norms for relationships would change, if at all, once government attempts to manipulate relationships are removed. But your half-baked theories about women have you advertising that you've found "a reason why AC will fail".
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