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Old 11-07-2007, 12:30 AM
gir gir is offline
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Default 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

Button: 31/22/3.8 Really aggro...with a hand.
BB: 28/12/2.1 Haven't tangled with him all that much...but the sample is over 300 hands. I don't have any real notes on him (so he's most likely been in line).

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $404
SB: $223.50
BB: $412.40
UTG: $404
MP: $1,929.25
Hero (CO): $577.90

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, BTN calls $16, SB folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, BTN calls $30, BB calls $30

Turn: ($140) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($140) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $160</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $366.40 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: $460 Pot
BB mucked and WON $662.90 (+$456.90 NET)
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:41 AM
cbboy cbboy is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

Why didn't you bet the turn?
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

Bet turn... as played call the river, I doubt even KQ calls that min raise.

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Old 11-07-2007, 01:27 AM
gir gir is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

Well, the question is about whether the fold is correct.
And you think KQs shoves there giving me justification to call?
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:48 AM
wrkingtobegreat wrkingtobegreat is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

*Grunch* This f-ing sucks...we're getting 2.8-1 on a call and we showed weakness on the turn, but I just cant put villain on anything but Kx or AA that we actually beat here...i guess its gotta be a fold.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:53 AM
wrkingtobegreat wrkingtobegreat is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

On thinking this over, if villain played this straight up his only reasonable range that beats us is 55 and AQ (doubt he would call flop bet with 33, would have raised with 10s JJs or KKs pre probably, and q9 seems like an unlikely call in the big blind. I think its a call because of Kx pushing in response to your turn check and innocuous river gir...
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:54 AM
wrkingtobegreat wrkingtobegreat is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

But yeah do you see how betting the turn might have made this easier to play gir?
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

So...If I bet turn and he raises me, what do I do then? And it would make it an easier call perhaps because I could put him on a heart draw. In this instance, I rule that one out.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

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So...If I bet turn and he raises me, what do I do then?

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fold and feel really good about it? seems like an easy bet for value and because you really rarely get raised by anything you beat
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river

I think fold is good as played.
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