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Old 12-01-2007, 04:06 PM
inferno inferno is offline
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[censored] converters

villian(sb) is 46/21 and att steal blinds: 37


hero in the BB w/ T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2fold, OTB limp, SB raises, I 3ball, both call
*** FLOP *** [K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
SB checks, hero bet, OTB folds and SB calls
*** TURN *** [8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
check, bet, call
*** RIVER *** [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
SB checks and I.....
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: bet this river !?

My standard play is to B/F, if he bets smaller pps, AHigh and missed FDs when checked to, you could c/c. I think his range is weighed towards 8x 6x and diamond draws (maybe also some sds in his range).
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:20 PM
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This is a really easy river bet. Did you think he was calling with unders?
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:43 PM
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This is a really easy river bet. Did you think he was calling with unders?

[/ QUOTE ] He could be calling with qx of diamonds..
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: bet this river !?

After fooling around with stove for a while, I think this is a pretty easy bet. There's lots of A8, A6, lower PP's that he will look you up with. He could easily call down with garbage like AJ or AT here also.

There isn't really any hand that he can checkraise on this river, either, unless he has a scared KQ or a feisty AQ.
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:34 PM
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if i bluff this river with my missed jt flushdraw(just an example! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) someone allways calls with 22 ... so i guess, easy valuebet! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Nah seriously, i think as long as your pair is higher than the second flop pair und ur opponent played c/c flop c/c turn it is allways a value bet.
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:48 PM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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against this villain I b/f (although I'm tempted to b/c) because when LAGs taking passive postflop lines it usually is with weak SDable hands and not draws, so you can v-bet against a ton of low pkts and 8s 6s and even maybe some 4s.

if this was a loose passive or tight passive I would be much more tempted to c/c and try to pick off bluffing diamonds or straight draws.
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:54 PM
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You gave some stats but most important to me is went to SD. If its 45+ I definitely bet. 40+ gray area. Less than 40 I check.

-DeathDonkey
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:08 PM
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You gave some stats but most important to me is went to SD. If its 45+ I definitely bet. 40+ gray area. Less than 40 I check.

-DeathDonkey

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WTSD takes so long to converge that I've stopped looking at it. I bet this for sure for reasons mentioned above.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:30 PM
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45+ wtsd is HUGE. if 40-45 is gray then you really feel unsure of this bet. i don't think this is close except against tight passive tags. i played one of those today. played exactly this type of hand. i checked JJ on the river on another overcard and his K8 scooped on K425Q. the difference here is this guy is 46/21 so

1. he likely gets more action in general and is likely to showdown lighter.
2. there are more cards on this board that hit his range vs. the board in my hand.

i don't think it's close and would bet, as nina said, without even thinking about looking at his wtsd.
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