Question regarding the Double The Raise rule...

[Rick Nebiolo]

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I think you are mistaken as to the reason for the rule. FOr as long as I can remember the current manager of the room has told me he thinks its a better rule because he believes that ist un fair to allow players to keep making a small raise back and forth to catch a player between them, not that his dealers can't figure out how to work the more standard rule.

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This is what I was told by Dave Simon of Hawaiian Gardens. Dave at HG had multiple no limit games going a year before the WPT (and hole card cams) started the current boom.

A series of mini-raises was almost unheard of in the few games played years ago. Now in the very small games you will see it in the LA clubs with the regular rule. Instead at HG the "double the bet you are facing" rule allows the initial mini-raise but forces players to put in something close to a "real" raise for subsequent raises.

~ Rick

[Rick Nebiolo]

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FOr as long as I can remember the current manager of the room has told me he thinks its a better rule because he believes that ist un fair to allow players to keep making a small raise back and forth to catch a player between them, not that his dealers can't figure out how to work the more standard rule.

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How 'bout just enforcing 4 raises when it's a multi-way pot?

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Or make four raises the cap (unless head up per Ciaffone's guidelines) AND use the double the bet rule!

~ Rick

Edit to mention that in LA three rasies would be the cap (unless head up as defined by Ciaffone).

[PantsOnFire]

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I think you are mistaken as to the reason for the rule. FOr as long as I can remember the current manager of the room has told me he thinks its a better rule because he believes that ist un fair to allow players to keep making a small raise back and forth to catch a player between them, not that his dealers can't figure out how to work the more standard rule.

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This is what I was told by Dave Simon of Hawaiian Gardens. Dave at HG had multiple no limit games going a year before the WPT (and hole card cams) started the current boom.

A series of mini-raises was almost unheard of in the few games played years ago. Now in the very small games you will see it in the LA clubs with the regular rule. Instead at HG the "double the bet you are facing" rule allows the initial mini-raise but forces players to put in something close to a "real" raise for subsequent raises.

~ Rick

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I don't have a huge problem with a double the bet rule. I don't think I have personally ever raised less than double the bet. And when someone does a min-raise to me, I love it for the pot odds and the information.

(Example: I have 77 mid and open for 3xBB. Next player re-raises to 5xBB and BB calls and it's back to me. There's a 13.5BB pot and need to put in 2BB to call. I practically don't even need any implied odds to call this. Plus, I'm certain re-raiser has a high pair and he's being "tricky" with his min-raise. If a 7 hits I will stack him.)

The only drawback I am seeing here is when there is a raise and then an all-in. The difference between using the min-raise rule and the double bet rule for re-opening the betting after the all-in might be significant.