Does Villian have odds to call with pockets??

[djshawk]

If he's just set mining then it's pretty close, but at NL10 he doesn't care about that.

I'd raise more preflop, but more important than that is having a full stack, what are you doing with just $2?

[djshawk]

Also bear in mind villian is actually ahead preflop and since you don't like cbetting you wont win this pot without spiking an A or K.

[Webster]

djshawk - you forget about fold equity.

I'm running an experiment by playing nothing but short stack games. I have read in so many places that short stacks have an advantage over deep stacks that I have to see how MUCH of an advantage.

But they never say by how much.

SO - here we go. So far 7.98BB/100

your comment about being behind - actually it's even 55 vs. AKs but then there is fold equity and the fact that big stacks have to worry about OTHER big stacks and if more then one is in the hand the one ahead of me might be forced to fold.

I've read a LOT and done a ton of research into short stack play (sort of an obsession at the moment) and even though I prefer playing with a deep stack.

As for cbetting - different story short stacked - once I make a raise I'm on auto push on the flop. Does not matter WHAT flops - I'm pushing everything out.

Works pretty good so far :-)

I think you can call it Monkey poker LOL

[djshawk]

I kind of appreciate what you are saying, but it sounds a bit muddled.

You say if you raise preflop then you will auto push any flop, so why are you posting this hand? What do you want people to say? What are you trying to learn?

I also don't really understand your point about fold equity, where have you got FE? Preflop you make a small raise, on the flop you make a psb giving anybody who wants to call 2:1 with 2 cards to come. If you want to lever your FE then I think you need to push preflop.

[Webster]

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What are you trying to learn?

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I'm trying to learn about the UTG play. Should he have called my raise with pocket 5's? In limit, no way! in NL? at first I was thinking no but now I'm thinking he had implied odds because of the other player in the hand.

If it was only two of us he stands to win a very little even IF he hits.

For fold equity - perhaps I'm using the term wrong - sorry.

What I was trying to say is that even if I do not hit my bet could fold people OR - if I hit and there are two other deep players in the hand the one that COULD beat me might fold because he does not want to tangle with the other deep player.

Also - at no time am I saying a deep stack will NOT win MORE then a short stack. A good deep player will crush bad or even average deep players but is at a disadvantage over short players.

Short players (when played correctly) will win on a very consistent basis, more limit like but with out the losses. Many small victories with a couple small losses.

My goal is to start small, get comfortable with NL and add to my stack as I become used to NL style play. AS my stack grows I add more hands to play.

I have found I have a "brain muscle memory" problem from 1 million limit hands (literally) and I go into limit mode and get in trouble. I'm being honest with myself.

Very good limit players (which I am) does not mean I'm a good NL player (which I'm not). It's like learning a second language and the first language keeps creeping in!