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Old 07-05-2007, 10:46 PM
Airharley Airharley is offline
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Default Pocket 9s in local tourney

First post in a while, I have been out in the desert playing soldier, and not playing much poker.

Local tourney. $50 buy in, 30min blind levels. 3000t starting stack, first level (25/50)

Realative stacks

Hero SB ~2950
BB ~2800
MP ~3000
Button ~6500

MP limps for 50, Button Calls, Hero looks down at 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and raises to 250, BB, MP and Button all call. Pot 1000

Flop 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero bets 500, BB folds, MP raises to 1000, Button Folds

Hero???? Call or push?

This is the 5th or 6th hand in the tourney, so not many reads. From earlier conversation with Villain, he seems LAGish. I put him on Ax [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (maybe AQ), 2pair, or maybe just a Queen. I've got 2200 behind and the pot is 2500.

Comments pre and postflop appreciated.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:00 PM
PwntFTW PwntFTW is offline
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

Raise is fine. Push to charge draws maximum amount, while disguising set as a draw (essentially luring in top pair and 2 pair).
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

Raise or push, he would probably call w/KQ or AQ...
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

A lot of money in there, get it in now.
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:53 AM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

Bigger fan of calling and leading any turn.

A nit player instantly sees monsters under the bed with a big jam here. If you call, lead and he reraises, he's pot committed to a jam - furthermore, if he flat calls, he's pot committed on the river.


Control your pot and massage it; you'll get it all in, no reason to scare him off.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

call cr all in on turn
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:05 AM
Airharley Airharley is offline
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

My concern here was the stack sizes, if I push now, (2200 into a pot of 2500) the flush draw has the odds to call. If I call, is it good to fold when the 3rd club falls? That would give me 1700 behind to work with.

Hind sight being 20/20, I think the villain accidentally (if he was committed to his flush draw), played this hand well. given the stack sizes. What do you guys think?
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

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My concern here was the stack sizes, if I push now, (2200 into a pot of 2500) the flush draw has the odds to call. If I call, is it good to fold when the 3rd club falls? That would give me 1700 behind to work with.

Hind sight being 20/20, I think the villain accidentally (if he was committed to his flush draw), played this hand well. given the stack sizes. What do you guys think?

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Im not scared of a club in this spot, ive seen people min raise with flush draws sure, but I also see them minraise with air or top pair to see where there at in the hand. I dont mind the call and lead out on the turn. I think trying to check raise the turn is a bad play though because you dont wanna give him a free river if the raise was for information. I wouldnt fold to a third club and if hes got AQc then all of his chips r getting in anywayz tough break.

Also you cant be afraid to push because flush draw has odds, because his range is so much bigger then just a flush draw.
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:50 AM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

After "your call" the pot is 3000 and you have 1700 left....SHOVE IT IN. Calling intending to c/f a club turn is just awful because his range is a lot wider than just a flush draw. There's also no need to massage the pot when you have 1700 left and it is 3000...SHOVE!
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Old 07-06-2007, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: Pocket 9s in local tourney

I'm pushing. I hate to call and have a third club fall on the turn and scare him off of KQ/AQ.
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