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Old 10-08-2007, 03:54 PM
Toronexti Toronexti is offline
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Default Is this standard with top 2?

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $67.60
UTG+1: $36
MP1: $99.60
MP2: $118.05
MP3: $102.75
CO: $100
Button: $86.80
SB: $181.05
Hero: $104.55

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls $1 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $1.5)</font>, 4 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $1 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $2.5)</font>, SB folds, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.5, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $11</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $62</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $99</font>
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Is this standard with top 2?

yes
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: Is this standard with top 2?

Looks standard to me.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Is this standard with top 2?

you lost to a set
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:18 PM
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:12 PM
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standard. dont be result oriented
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:04 AM
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standard. dont be result oriented

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I'm not being results oriented. While I was playing the hand I couldn't think of anything that I beat taking this line, and I honestly still can't think of anything.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:16 AM
Dschmeidreu Dschmeidreu is offline
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Default Re: Is this standard with top 2?

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standard. dont be result oriented

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I'm not being results oriented. While I was playing the hand I couldn't think of anything that I beat taking this line, and I honestly still can't think of anything.

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There's a few hands that take this line that you're ahead of, although really none that you're anything other than a slight favorite against.

Ac4c is a possibility, as are 9c10c, 8c9c, 5c6c. Sure it would have probably been best for button to raise ALL of these preflop.....did he have 44 here? I assume since you posted this yes, but I dont know how I play this other than how you played it.
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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I don't see T9c 98c 65c or A4c making the 4-bet without pushing. The raise is such that it's obviously looking for a call, whereas all of those hands would push being just as happy if I folded. I guess J4 or 74 might play it like this if he really thinks he's ahead . . .
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Is this standard with top 2?

I think its pretty far from standard. Your flop 3bet sizing is very poor for one (unless you had a read that he'd open push a lot of hands to the weak 3bet). Second button limped after 2 limpers. ie. he isn't doing this with AJ, AA-QQ. 77,44,65[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],A4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]....unless you have a read you aren't sharing I would just call his 3bet. Pot would be $26.50 headed into the turn. Turn I'd c/f or c/r-all in depending on my read. I'm not automatically willing to play for 85BB on this flop.

Also it is a full ring table making me less willing to go crazy with top two on this board.
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