The Worst Strategy You've Overheard at a Table

[iron81]

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Some old lady got all her chips in PF with AJ vs AQ and after she busted said "It was 50/50, I can hit my J or he can hit his Q." I almost flipped the table over.

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Lolz, you got leveled, she's a 2+2er.

[bapazian]

Heres my two:

1. Playing in a home game tournament with 4/10 players left. The chip leader open raises the min and another player goes all in with a medium stack.
Chip leader folds AA face up saying he plays poker for skill and isn't going to "gamble" before the flop. Everyone at the table is just dumbfounded.

2. Apparently when I first started playing poker I tried to convince my friends that suited cards were "magnets" and should always be played. I'm not sure if I ever actually beleivd this or if I was just leveling lol.

[rakemeplz]

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Flushes come at least 50% of the time. They either do, or they don't.

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That is kind of a standard gambling fallacy - if there are 2 outcomes, then the probability of each occurring is 50%. It's kind of obvious it's not always true - gamblers recognize that a sports team can be a huge favorite. But when they are gambling on something for which they have little information, then they get clueless. For example, a prize is behind Door #1 or Door #2, almost everyone will jump to the conclusion that it's a 50/50 choice, when really they have no basis at all for assuming that.

I remember one $1/2 NL player who said JT was his favorite hand, and he always raises with it. He was getting short-stacked (surprise!) and went all in. He winced when someone called him - he assumed he was a big underdog until his opponent turned over AK, when he sighed relief and said "Oh good, I thought I was dominated - but it's a coin flip." I guess either he was gonna hit his cards or the other guy was, so it was a "coin flip", right? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I've heard someone say that a flush draw is 50/50 on the flop at least ten times. And I don't play live very much.

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I've heard qq vs ak called a coinflip when its almost 60/40. I dont think jt suited vs ak is that much different from 60/40. So its like a coinflip in that you got close to a 50/50 shot.

[jeffnc]

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I've heard qq vs ak called a coinflip when its almost 60/40. I dont think jt suited vs ak is that much different from 60/40. So its like a coinflip in that you got close to a 50/50 shot.

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A pair is always going to be ahead of AK, it's just that QQ vs AK is one of the worst ones for AK. AK vs JTs is 60/40, but QQ vs AK is 57/43. That's actually a lot closer to 55/45 (which 77 is) than JTs.

[SDone]

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from a little $5 game I used to play:

After 4-5 people go all in preflop, 1 guy calls with 74o, after everyone flips their hands over (obv. big hands) he say's "I knew you all had big cards, now i'm the favorite b/c there's less big cards for y'all to hit.
Not particularly striking until i found out that he has been teaching high school math for 30 years.

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Actually he may be right on. If the other 4 guys all have the same several high over cards, then they cannibalize each other's equity. The guy with 74o has two live cards, and if either one hits and no one has a high pocket pair, he's probably good. He can easily have greater than 20% equity there.

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12,824,815 games 15.079 secs 850,508 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.754% 26.64% 01.12% 3416244 143313.27 { AhKh }
Hand 1: 26.921% 26.06% 00.86% 3342635 110050.27 { AcQc }
Hand 2: 11.503% 10.17% 01.34% 1303675 171620.77 { AdJh }
Hand 3: 07.258% 06.45% 00.81% 827537 103349.10 { KdJs }
Hand 4: 26.563% 26.50% 00.07% 3398251 8515.60 { 7h4d }


imo

[JacJacAtk]

850,668 games 0.070 secs 12,152,399 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.576% 09.93% 06.64% 84486 56516.70 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 14.320% 07.68% 06.64% 65299 56516.70 { AdKd }
Hand 2: 14.328% 07.68% 06.64% 65370 56516.70 { AhKh }
Hand 3: 16.576% 09.93% 06.64% 84486 56516.70 { AsKs }
Hand 4: 38.201% 38.11% 00.09% 324176 784.20 { 7d4h }

[Spike Forehand]

$2/$4 game at the Taj this weekend. I was on the button with 53 suited and there were 7 limpers, so I called to make it a family pot. I bet the whole way when the board came J53-Q-8.

Noone ever reraised me, and this guy called me all the way down with KJ and then berated me for betting on the end because "The only hand that calls is one that beats you." Guess he failed to notice that he did call me with second pair.

Not the worst I ever heard, but I definitely got a kick out of this one.

God Bless the Taj Mahal

- Spike

[dudemanjack]

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$2/$4 game at the Taj this weekend. I was on the button with 53 suited and there were 7 limpers, so I called to make it a family pot. I bet the whole way when the board came J53-Q-8.

Noone ever reraised me, and this guy called me all the way down with KJ and then berated me for betting on the end because "The only hand that calls is one that beats you." Guess he failed to notice that he did call me with second pair.

Not the worst I ever heard, but I definitely got a kick out of this one.

God Bless the Taj Mahal

- Spike

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A+ strategy from villain. lol

[Jailblazers]

Not any live ones I can think of, but I recently encountered something like this at a $1 SNG on pokerstars.

It's near the bubble and I just start stealing like crazy because I have the chip lead. This is basically the conversation after some tight-nit doubled up from 5BB to 10BB w/ 33 vs my raggedy overcards.

Donk: I've been waiting all day to trap you.
Me: GJ you're awesome at winning coinflips.
Donk: LOL! I was a 55-45 favorite man.
Me: Big deal, 55-45 might as well be 50-50.
Donk: Haha, I'm laughing because you think 55-45 is the same as a 50-50.

Anyway, what followed was that I continued to play aggressive and he won at least 3 more coinflips in the next few hands where he may have been a slight favorite.

Donk: Wow you're so bad, everyone knows you have nothing and we can just wait all day to take the edges you give us.

On another table, I busted him out after pushing A-rag in the SB and he called w/ 88 and lost. He was furious about how he had me dominated and blah blah.


The conversation was way funnier and I was LoL'ing even harder when I sharkscoped him and found he had played some absurd amount of $1 SNGs for a total profit of $8000.

[JMX]

Just got back from a live session with some of the worst players in the world.

"Q-8 is a helluva drawing hand."

Guy: "A-4 is not a very good hand."
Woman: "Yes it is."
Guy: "No it isn't, my A-Q had you dominated."
Woman: "I don't care."