Fold QQ preflop?

[Buckmulligan]

When I cap this preflop, it's not for value as everyone else would imply. I want to make sure BB can't come along and give UTG a chance to fold to two cold.

[kumarshah]

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Both UTG and CO are tight passive players with UTG being really tight passive.

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (13SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.5BB

My plan was to call and see if UTG would cap it. If he did I would c/f the flop unless I spiked my queen. If he did not I would c/r a non AK-flop.

However I got confused when UTG checked the flop so I ended up calling CO down.

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Grunch:
Cap PF.
Raise Flop.

Take it from there.

[dchz]

since you didn't post any reads, i'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that they are EXTREMELY TIGHT Players, and even then you have more euqity than them against their hands mos tof the time, CAP PRE-FLOP!&gt;?!??!?

[StoneAgeMan]

I find you just get punished again and again for not getting information on these hands - you try and save a small amount early and pay and pay calling down with no idea what's going on - in fact I am glad I saw this post, I'm done with value betting and I'm am going to hammer myself on this for a while.

[Lunkan]

I understand now that I relied to much on my stats (and played horrible as well ...) since after some more hands UTG is classified as slightly loose aggressive. CO is still classified as weak-tight and showed down AA. I was definitely a bit results-oriented when posting as well ...

[FUJItheFISH]

you played this hand fine.