22$ - KQ hits toppair in unraised pot

sence25 · #1 09-22-2007, 09:50 AM

Holla, how you like?
Reads: Both villains are no regulars.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG+1 (t1875)
MP1 (t1380)
MP2 (t1265)
MP3 (t1580)
CO (t1790)
Button (t1440)
SB (t1310)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1360)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t40, 3 folds, Button calls t40, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t160) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets t80, Hero calls t80, MP1 calls t80, Button folds.

Turn: (t400) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t240, Hero calls t240, MP1 calls t240.

River: (t1120) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 folds, SB calls t300.

Final Pot: t1720

Q.. · #2 09-22-2007, 10:51 AM

I don't like call on the flop, this is one of the perfect situations for KQ to extract some good money being pretty sure we r ahead, from draws, raise it to 200 at least and let them draw. As played you have given mp1 +ev with hes draw which is a mistake i guess.

sence25 · #3 09-22-2007, 11:02 AM

I thought about raising the flop though I wanted to control the pot+keep a weak Q betting.
I could also already be beat on the flop.. but since they are no regulars, a set is not very likely.

You'd say raise flop to 200, willing to go broke here?

HajiShirazu · #4 09-22-2007, 11:37 AM

There's a few draws out and this could get ugly if you call flop and SB bets again on turn with people left to act after you, so I would raise flop. Not necessarily looking to go broke. I might raise flop to 200-250 and check turn if it got HU with SB, then get value on the river if he checks again.
Nice bet on the river although I would make it a little bigger, but still less than 1/2 pot.

mortimo · #5 09-22-2007, 12:10 PM

I raise the flop as well. SB could have a wide range, so better to find out now where we stand. I raise to t220-240.
I like turn and river, but maybe t400 instead.

John Pars · #6 09-22-2007, 12:22 PM

Id raise pre and defo raise flop. Two many drawing hands out there. I have learnt a hard lesson with kq if you dont rasie pre you dont know where you are with it. Also you have to raise flop flush straight draws out there. If a club comes on the turn then what. If they make there flush/straight you may go broke not being able to fold. Make them pay to draw if you dont then if they hit you may go broke anyway.

kurti · #7 09-22-2007, 12:30 PM

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i would certainly like to welcome you at one of my tables one of these days

dipstikdave · #8 09-22-2007, 01:14 PM

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Holla, how you like?
Reads: Both villains are no regulars.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG+1 (t1875)
MP1 (t1380)
MP2 (t1265)
MP3 (t1580)
CO (t1790)
Button (t1440)
SB (t1310)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1360)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t40, 3 folds, Button calls t40, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t160) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets t80, Hero calls t80, MP1 calls t80, Button folds.

Turn: (t400) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t240, Hero calls t240, MP1 calls t240.

River: (t1120) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 folds, SB calls t300.

Final Pot: t1720

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i think you need to raise this flop. you likely have the best hand and you need to charge those draws.

on the turn, i think you're stuck with having to call here, but i don't like it.

make a bigger bet(1/2 pot) or even value push the river, the second jack is a good card for you.

vers · #9 09-22-2007, 01:27 PM

Raise flop to 200 or so. Raising pre is a horrible idea. N v-bet on riv (or was it a block bet so you MP1 didn't shove)?

sence25 · #10 09-22-2007, 02:19 PM

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Holla, how you like?
Reads: Both villains are no regulars.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG+1 (t1875)
MP1 (t1380)
MP2 (t1265)
MP3 (t1580)
CO (t1790)
Button (t1440)
SB (t1310)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1360)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t40, 3 folds, Button calls t40, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t160) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets t80, Hero calls t80, MP1 calls t80, Button folds.

Turn: (t400) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t240, Hero calls t240, MP1 calls t240.

River: (t1120) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 folds, SB calls t300.

Final Pot: t1720

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i think you need to raise this flop. you likely have the best hand and you need to charge those draws.

on the turn, i think you're stuck with having to call here, but i don't like it.

make a bigger bet(1/2 pot) or even value push the river, the second jack is a good card for you.

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from the action i put the aggressor on a weak queen, and want to get some value