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Old 05-03-2005, 02:08 AM
PokerMike PokerMike is offline
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ok, JV, this isn't even funny.

i just emailed a 2p2er about THIS EXACT SAME THING...

i have more hands on him. its obviously the same player.

i have him as a 145k winner at a rate of 3bb/100 over more hands than you have on him.

i asked my friend "how can this be humanly possible that this person plays almost 2X as many hands as i and has a higher win rate.?"

the response: "i certainly wish i knew."

-Barron

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I emailed him too. I just can't get my head around these stats.

93k hands, 30/17/2.0, 144k earned, filtered for 7+ players. How?
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Old 05-03-2005, 02:24 AM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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ok, JV, this isn't even funny.

i just emailed a 2p2er about THIS EXACT SAME THING...

i have more hands on him. its obviously the same player.

i have him as a 145k winner at a rate of 3bb/100 over more hands than you have on him.

i asked my friend "how can this be humanly possible that this person plays almost 2X as many hands as i and has a higher win rate.?"

the response: "i certainly wish i knew."

-Barron

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I emailed him too. I just can't get my head around these stats.

93k hands, 30/17/2.0, 144k earned, filtered for 7+ players. How?

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i imported the data to excel...i'll be working on this till i get some answers so rest assued.

Barron
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Old 05-03-2005, 02:30 AM
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I think you'll find that he extracts a lot postflop when he is ahead and looses if not minimum then far less when he is behind. Also look for his winrate when raising the turn! I'm pretty sure it'll be something like 70%.
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Old 05-03-2005, 02:34 AM
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I think you'll find that he extracts a lot postflop when he is ahead or sucks out and loses if not minimum then far less when he is behind and doesn't suck out . Also look for his winrate when raising the turn! I'm pretty sure it'll be something like 70%.

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Old 05-03-2005, 02:35 AM
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I think you'll find that he extracts a lot postflop when he is ahead and looses if not minimum then far less when he is behind. Also look for his winrate when raising the turn! I'm pretty sure it'll be something like 70%.

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Are you kidding me? Dude will raise and three-bet the turn with middle pair. Probably the lightest three-betting regular in the game. But as I've said many times about this player, I'm sure he makes a lot of money against people who are unable or unwilling to properly adjust to him.
-James
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:02 PM
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I think you'll find that he extracts a lot postflop when he is ahead and looses if not minimum then far less when he is behind. Also look for his winrate when raising the turn! I'm pretty sure it'll be something like 70%.

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How can one get a winrate when raising the turn from PT? Is this fancy-schmancy add-on software/programming? Who can I nag to show me how to walk me through it/figure this out?
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:54 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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ok,

so we all know (in this thread) who we're talking about...

if somebody asked me if this was possible i'd say no.

but it is...i dont know how he/she does it (ive certainly seen some very odd play from this person vs. me) but somehow it works...its absolutely amazing.

-Barron
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:59 PM
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what is the NF number? ag is aggression factor right?
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:04 AM
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Can't an experience be an exact opposite of mine?

I'm stuck 4 dimes in 56k hands. Of course, no one has to believe me, but I play pretty good. Definitely better than the average 15 player. Yet I haven't been able to win and have no reason to think I ever will.

Online is a strange enigma to me. Edge is small, variance is high and you need tons of hands to reach the long term. If I just won anywhere near the proper percentage of times someone hit a 2-outer after throwing in tons of bets, I'd be doing fine. What I'm saying is that this can work in reverse too.
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:19 AM
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I can see what you're saying, but I think being stuck 4k after 56k hands is a bit different from making 3bb/100 over 145k. From reading your posts to date, I'd be willing to bet it turns around for you, and probably soon.

As for the dude, either a.) this is a very rare statistical anomoly, b.) there is some form of collusion happening, or c.) he is a world-class player, so good that he can make hands profitable that the VAST majority of other players could not

This is real interesting - Jags
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