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Old 11-29-2007, 08:58 PM
Ansky Ansky is offline
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i think flop is fine, now i bet turn... ansky i watched some of this match and agree that w/ the way it was going, if he c/r turn you should prob get away from this. anyhow that hand where you flopped top set and he rivered the straight was just sick... is that the same guy on stars that is primarily a MTT guy?

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no. it was a different person.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

bet, if u decide to check, then bet river and fold to c/r
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

I like a check behind to get some river value and for pot control. I would assume he rr pre with AQ or AK preflop, and c/ring an Ace on this flop IMO is terrible by him(unless its AQ or AK). You don't want to bet here and get double c/r, and then have to contemplate calling a big river bet. Though you guys are deep, I don't really see you getting much value here on the turn unless you're beat. I think you risk getting v-towned by a fancily played 3x. Plus, he could put u on a middish pair if you check behind this turn, and could definitely try a big bluff on the riv if it's a paint card. Turn check is good IMO.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

"Im good with betting the turn but only if you can fold happily to the check raise because if you really don't know what to do betting is bad. Besides, its unlikely you get two more streets of value out of a majority of his range, and you can possibly catch some river bluffs as well."

100% agree.

It seems given this flop and game dynamic, your value is capped where your value bets would be value stacking yourself after two streets worth of bets.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

OK. guess we've had enough about the turn.

I bet 3100 on the turn, he thinks for ~10 seconds and calls.

River is a Qs and he checks fairly quckly. ~ 15k effective stacks.

I...

(Remember I do have the ace of spades, so he cannot have Axss.)
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

shove.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:14 AM
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you realize pot is 9800 right?
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

fold flop
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:57 AM
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fold flop

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QFT
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

has he been three betting a normal amount preflop?
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