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Old 07-24-2007, 09:59 PM
SaulPaul SaulPaul is offline
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ill field in for the UK.

It costs the tax payer about 100bil a year which works out about 18 a year per person on average (inc non tax payers)

Waiting list are percieved to be long, the longest being 6 months. Most within 6 weeks, and doctors appointments in one week.

Other critiscms include dirty wards with high level of resistant bacteria, and a shortage of NHS dentists.

Also REALLY expensive drugs (eg. cancer drugs) arent usually available at this present time.

Also you can get private health insurance, but i was unable to find out how much this was
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:59 PM
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IE in Sweden someone making about $80k/yr is taxed 45%, max tax is 50%. Here it's 38%/38% at that level. Not *that* gigantic of a difference.

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7-12% sounds like a pretty big difference to me.

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OK, but don't most people in the US pay well over 7% of their income for health insurance?
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:09 PM
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IE in Sweden someone making about $80k/yr is taxed 45%, max tax is 50%. Here it's 38%/38% at that level. Not *that* gigantic of a difference.

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7-12% sounds like a pretty big difference to me.

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OK, but don't most people in the US pay well over 7% of their income for health insurance?

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As an individual, probably not. If you combine the company's contribution, then probably yes.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:17 PM
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Public spending on health care per capita in 2004 -
Canada: $2,120
US: $2,724

Private spending on health care per capita in 2004 -
Canada: $917
US: $3,372
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:46 AM
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My friend has gotten $150k worth of eye surgeries at UCLA eye center because she's indigent and disabled (although not enough to get disabilty [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]) in LA County.
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WTF? I'm not charging enough.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:59 AM
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Cataract surgery, laser surgery, corneal transplant, a million follow up things. The last I heard she said it was $120k or something so I just extrapolated.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:06 AM
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ill field in for the UK.

It costs the tax payer about 100bil a year which works out about 18 a year per person on average

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err 100B/18 = 5 billion plus subjects and I thought they had a negative birth rate they really have been busy.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:55 AM
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Be more pissed about this----

Who pays for pharmaceutical innovation?

Since 1999 America has accounted for 71% of the sales of new chemical entities, up from 62%. Japan and Germany, the next two largest pharmaceutical markets, account for just 4% each.

Of course this figure stems from both high volume and high price in the U.S.; it is a massive form of implicit foreign aid.

Other countries like to point out how much we pay for inferior care here is a good place to cut some fat
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:02 AM
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Be more pissed about this----

Who pays for pharmaceutical innovation?

Since 1999 America has accounted for 71% of the sales of new chemical entities, up from 62%. Japan and Germany, the next two largest pharmaceutical markets, account for just 4% each.

Of course this figure stems from both high volume and high price in the U.S.; it is a massive form of implicit foreign aid.

Other countries like to point out how much we pay for inferior care here is a good place to cut some fat

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You are absolutely correct, Canadians paying 3% over production cost (by law) is crazy when American's pay for all of the development costs.

It gets even worse if American's are allowed to subvert the system and buy drugs from Canada.

Personally I think the solution is to invade Canada, or maybe file a WTO complaint.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:10 AM
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Other countries like to point out how much we pay for exponentially superior care here is a good place to cut some fat

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