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Old 05-15-2007, 12:44 AM
gutshot1 gutshot1 is offline
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Default Am I overthinking the hand?

I was in a live 5/5 no limit game when I picked up pocket kings. I raised preflop to 40 and got 3 callers. The flop came:
K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

First guy checked I bet 60 button raised to $140. He is a sneaky player that knows I am a solid tight player. The small blind folds I just call. Turn is a 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I check he bets 300. My original read was that he had pocket 10s but it quickly changed to maybe he has QJ which makes the straight. I just call hoping the board pairs. River is a 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I check he thinks and goes all in for 615. I had 915 total. I thought for 3 mins and folded my set of kings.

I had made up my mind that if the board did not pair and he went all in he had to have had the straight. Would you guys have folded this hand?
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:48 AM
pokeriseasy pokeriseasy is offline
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Default Re: Am I overthinking the hand?

I'm never folding here. Shove the turn. His raise on the flop seems like he has a hand he wants a call out of, I think he makes a bigger raise with QJ. I wouldn't even mind a flop 3bet for the fact that I think he really likes his hand and isn't folding.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Am I overthinking the hand?

Folding here is terrible. One hand beats you. This belongs in SSNL.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Am I overthinking the hand?

bet more on the flop.

as played check-raise the turn all-in. he can easily have TT, 33, KT or even be dumb enough to play AK or AA like this (it is a live game after all). his flop raise (just over the minumum) looks like he is begging for you to call, which makes me think 33 and TT are both very likely. so yes, i would say that you definately overthought this hand.

and of course, no way would i have folded. folding is really bad unless you have some kind of insane read. this is another case of monsters under the bed thinking "he must have this, no wait! i have the second nuts so he must have the nuts etc etc."

disclaimer: i think this hand is too elementary for MSNL, but w/e, ive posted dumb [censored] here too. just please dont post that he showed QJ, bcoz noone will think ur smart and for some reason it really annoys me when ppl do that.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:50 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Am I overthinking the hand?

always wait till you have the nuts
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: Am I overthinking the hand?

He was on a complete bluff. He had the A7 of clubs [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Sorry if I posted in the wrong area. I really think I have a problem with my game of always thinking there are monsters under the bed. Is there anyway to get over this?
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:55 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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He was on a complete bluff. He had the A7 of clubs [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Sorry if I posted in the wrong area. I really think I have a problem with my game of always thinking there are monsters under the bed. Is there anyway to get over this?

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You don't play enough hands of poker.
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