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Old 06-11-2007, 01:08 PM
Murakawa Murakawa is offline
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Default Who said there\'s no variance in draw?

This is a BBV thread but will get much more appreciation here I think. Take this hand:

Five Card Draw $1-$2 (Real Money), #446,769,234
Table Vientiane, 11 Jun 2007 12:27 PM ET



Seat 3: Paloo ($9.95 in chips)
Seat 5: HERO ($53.65 in chips)
Seat 7: C.Bellarmino ($1.50 in chips)
Seat 9: idnaros ($32 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
C.Bellarmino posts blind ($0.50), idnaros posts blind ($1).

PRE-DRAW
Paloo bets $2, HERO bets $3, C.Bellarmino calls $1 and is all-in, idnaros folds, Paloo bets $2, HERO calls $1.

DRAW
C.Bellarmino changes 2S for 4D, C.Bellarmino changes JS for 6C, Paloo changes 8H for 8C, Paloo changes 7C for 3H, Paloo changes 10H for QC, HERO changes 5S for JD.

POST-DRAW
Paloo bets $2, HEROcalls $2.

SHOWDOWN
Paloo shows [ 3C,8C,3D,3H,QC ]
HERO mucks cards [ 9D,9C,AH,JD,AS ]
C.Bellarmino mucks cards [ 4D,10C,AC,6C,KC ]
Paloo wins $8.55, Paloo wins $5.25.


This has been happening to me all week. I have a major dip in BR. I keep steping back and I say... okay I am so likely to go on tilt that I need to play like a sklanksy machine... look at pot odds and analyze the whole hand. As far as I can tell I'm playing very well and I"m just getting way unlucky, but everyone else seems to think draw is a free ride for lots of money. I'm having a hard time not going on tilt... my beats are getting rediculous. Is anyone else having this problem or do I really relaly need to reexamine my game?
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:43 PM
Idolatrous Idolatrous is offline
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Default Re: Who said there\'s no variance in draw?

There is variance in every game. Draw is simply easier to exploit bad players in the long run. But obviously any game where any amount of luck is involved, there will be variance and bad streaks.
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:51 PM
Murakawa Murakawa is offline
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Default Re: Who said there\'s no variance in draw?

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There is variance in every game. Draw is simply easier to exploit bad players in the long run. But obviously any game where any amount of luck is involved, there will be variance and bad streaks.

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I know, I'm just pissed off.
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Old 06-11-2007, 04:28 PM
Duffy333 Duffy333 is offline
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Default Re: Who said there\'s no variance in draw?

Sometimes on Eurobet some players from 5CD Limit come to 5CD PL and they call all my bets with any [censored] like 22 or 55 and draw trips with my two pair with AA high or even full house with my trips QQQ and higher [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] But on a distance I have a good profit from them [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I hope that you playing correctly and mathematic is on your side
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Who said there\'s no variance in draw?

Looks like I need to start raise/capping 33 from the CO...
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:48 PM
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Looks like I need to start raise/capping 33 from the CO...

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He gets it
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Who said there\'s no variance in draw?

He put you on Ace King.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Who said there\'s no variance in draw?

this is a boring hand where your opponent played well

draw games get tough because the crap players lose quick and guys who can win by simply knowing which cards to start with against the chasers figure its a license to print - so its common to end up with a game with plenty of solid players - beating the solid players by spotting where they are weak ultimately seperates the good from the bad

stop whinging and get better

stripsqueez - chickenhawk
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:43 AM
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Haha, you are unnecessarily mean!

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this is a boring hand where your opponent played well

draw games get tough because the crap players lose quick and guys who can win by simply knowing which cards to start with against the chasers figure its a license to print - so its common to end up with a game with plenty of solid players - beating the solid players by spotting where they are weak ultimately seperates the good from the bad

stop whinging and get better

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

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