What do you think of this?

Quake1028 · #1 05-29-2007, 02:40 PM

Saturday night we had one of our regular home games. This time we had 8 people, $160 prize pool. Two places paid this time, $100 for first and $60 for second. I get down to the final 3 with a husband and wife. Pretty even stacks. I guess I should tell you first about a hand earlier in the night. The pot is only between the two of them. Flop comes 3-4-4. Husband bets out, wife raises, husband asks how much she has left. After about 3 minutes of her whining about him asking that, and about how she just wants to play, he just calls. They check the rest of the hand down. He had pocket aces, she had pocket jacks. She should have been gone there and would have with any other player holding pocket aces. So, we get down to three. Then things start to get really fishy. Every hand between them they are checking down. I get a little behind in chips and this hand comes up. They check down another board all the way and she turns over 3 Jacks. He turns over 2 pairs and asks "why didn't you bet me?". She says to him and her friend "I'm not going to bet you when you are going to finish second, it would be stupid." At this point I get pretty pissed and say something about it. They all act like it's no big deal. The wife would laugh a few times when the husband would try to bet, and he would decide against it. She showed a winning hand every time that happened. After a couple more hands of them doing nothing but checking, and it being fully apparent that they are only going to play pots against me and I am playing 2 on 1, I walk out. I tell them frankly that if the money is worth so much to them they are willing to openly cheat, then they need it more than I do.

What complicates everything is that this is my gf's brother and his wife. If I decide to not play poker with them again, then I lose out on playing in my home game. It will also cause a problem in other ways for me as well. I just don't want to put myself in that situation again. My gf thinks I take it too seriously, but this is real money we are playing for.

What say you?

Rottersod · #2 05-29-2007, 02:48 PM

It's a friendly home game. Relax and have fun. Everyone else there is (including your gf).

Quake1028 · #3 05-29-2007, 02:51 PM

I should make it clear that my gf does not play cards, and everyone there is pretty serious about it.

skitzo444 · #4 05-29-2007, 04:21 PM

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It's a friendly home game. Relax and have fun. Everyone else there is (including your gf).

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No no no. Poker is poker. It sounds like your GF's family is a pack of smelly cheaters.

Javanewt · #5 05-29-2007, 04:26 PM

I agree it's just a fun home game, but I also agree it's for money.

Did you point it out politely that it is collusion and it's illegal in a casino or even online? Also, that you are here to play poker, which is for money, not to play something like Scrabble just for fun?

I agree that I would have been upset, but I would have made my case and then tried to beat them both.

I'm the gf, and my bf and I play together often, but I would never collude. I play against him the same way I play against anyone else.

Quake1028 · #6 05-29-2007, 05:21 PM

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I agree it's just a fun home game, but I also agree it's for money.

Did you point it out politely that it is collusion and it's illegal in a casino or even online? Also, that you are here to play poker, which is for money, not to play something like Scrabble just for fun?

I agree that I would have been upset, but I would have made my case and then tried to beat them both.

I'm the gf, and my bf and I play together often, but I would never collude. I play against him the same way I play against anyone else.

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I made this point to them several times. After it was clear that they had no intentions of stopping, I left.

pfapfap · #7 05-29-2007, 05:34 PM

Ugh, that sucks. Caught in a double bind. I can understand getting frustrated at this. The level-headed hindsight me would simply and with class express a lack of desire to play a game with cheaters and walk out. The real me would probably get pissy and make some sharp comments and storm out.

Just tell the gf that you don't like playing games with cheaters. You hold nothing against them as people, but you would prefer not play with them so that you don't have to deal with it. If your gf isn't playing either, then who cares if you do? Surely you can find another game.

Out of curiosity, what sorts of things did you say to them and what were their responses? I can imagine being told that it's not cheating to be rather maddening.

Quake1028 · #8 05-29-2007, 05:41 PM

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Out of curiosity, what sorts of things did you say to them and what were their responses? I can imagine being told that it's not cheating to be rather maddening.

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I told them exactly what I said in this thread, it's unfair to me, it's cheating, it's collusion, and they basically just laughed it off.

Rottersod · #9 05-29-2007, 06:03 PM

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It's a friendly home game. Relax and have fun. Everyone else there is (including your gf).

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No no no. Poker is poker. It sounds like your GF's family is a pack of smelly cheaters.

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There are different kinds of poker and the fact that there is a home game forum and a B&M forum is proof of that. Some home games are more like casino's where there is a rake and a dealer and some are filled with people who only want to make money. The majority of home games are a mix of people out for a good time and a few people who take the game seriously and want every rule to be enforced. The people who are there only to have a good time do not appreciate being bullied into playing a certain way and nothing you do will get them to change. If you don't like that style of playing then find a different game.

Rottersod · #10 05-29-2007, 06:07 PM

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I should make it clear that my gf does not play cards, and everyone there is pretty serious about it.

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I doubt that the latter is true or else your post wouldn't make any sense. Obv. the husband and wife are not serious about the game. You expressed your opinion and they all blew you off so find another game or make the best of it.

Anyways, I wound't have been too upset that they were colluding since it meant that you would only need to go against one of them and not both depending on where the blinds were. You should have been able to move in and at least scoop some blind(s).