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Old 01-29-2007, 05:29 PM
TwistedEcho TwistedEcho is offline
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Default Two AJ hands from sunday warmup

Haven't posted a hand for a while, got into a discussion with some people on these hands and wondered what the masses thought. Most people i spoke to thought one was simple, and the other was divided.

Hand One

About 200 people left (money bubble was 270) i have a sick good image, since everyone folds when i raise 78s and then i get to showdown with QQ+ AK etc.

UTG has some idea what hes doing, and he def is shoving ~60% of his hands here, maybe even more. The coldcaller seems to have some understanding, but basically seems to play pretty boring TAGish poker and pays attention to his cards.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t10000 with t500 antes (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t59276)
UTG+1 (t486748)
MP1 (t88974)
MP2 (t237242)
MP3 (t170924)
CO (t122194)
TwistedEcho (t511415)
SB (t239927)
BB (t56503)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t58776 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t58776, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">TwistedEcho raises to t510915 (All-in)</font>

Hand Two

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t12000 with t600 antes (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t298627)
UTG+1 (t36403)
MP1 (t608542)
MP2 (t66874)
CO (t796622)
Button (t148824)
SB (t180831)
TwistedEcho (t822333)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to t66274 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t180231 (All-in)</font>

MP2 is new to table, no reads, sb is playing around 20/18/2 accoring to PT and seems to be playing a standard game. Haven't seen him showdown anything yet.
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Two AJ hands from sunday warmup

1st: I like. Will you also do this with any 2 ever?

2nd: Easy fold.
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Two AJ hands from sunday warmup

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1st: I like. Will you also do this with any 2 ever?



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People do the funniest things - but do people ever cold call 1/4 of their stack and then fold ever?
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Two AJ hands from sunday warmup

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1st: I like. Will you also do this with any 2 ever?



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People do the funniest things - but do people ever cold call 1/4 of their stack and then fold ever?

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They do far worse than that sometimes
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Two AJ hands from sunday warmup

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1st: I like. Will you also do this with any 2 ever?

2nd: Easy fold.

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anytwo no, but i would have done it with almost anything that i would call/isolate the first allin. Basically i'll pretend the coldcaller doesn't exist and assume the times i run into a hand that has me crushed is made up for the times he folds and i play vs the allin with his dead money.

Why is the second one a clear fold, he should be isolating here with a range wide enough for me to get my chips in? I would also have a sidepot.
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:42 PM
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Why is the second one a clear fold, he should be isolating here with a range wide enough for me to get my chips in? I would also have a sidepot.

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I don't think a TAG playing a "standard game" is isolating with THAT wide a range here.
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Two AJ hands from sunday warmup

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he should be isolating here with a range wide enough for me to get my chips in?

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I'd be hesitant to give an unknown that much credit. Agree with Kramer.
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Two AJ hands from sunday warmup

hate 1st hand, you know why.

2nd hand yah easy fold.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:00 PM
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For those of you who fold two easily, what is your calling range?
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:02 PM
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For those of you who fold two easily, what is your calling range?

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AQ/99+. I guess saying "easy fold" was wrong then given that AJo just misses for me.
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