omaha ods chart???

[rootdown]

i have been looking with no success for three days now. i don't want a simulator program, i am looking for a chart that shows the % chance of making particular hands. ie. straight, flush etc........

[BradleyT]

scroll down to "Estimating probability of drawing outs"

Wikipedia Probabilities

[lfairban]

I assume you are refering to post flop in Holdem or Omaha.

If you can count outs this page should give you the probability. Notice that it can be displayed in %, X:1 or 1 in X.

For Pre-flop use the calculator link at the bottom. It is not a simulation type calculator.

[rootdown]

what i am really looking for is a chart that shows the odds of making apair, two pair, straight, flush, etc.... with random starting hands.

i want to better understand the winning hand strength and probability in omaha. thanks for the help.

[mindcirkus]

I remember looking forever for an Omaha post flop odds chart, but I could never find one, only Hold'em charts. They are obviously pretty similiar, but in Omaha you have 2 less unknown cards in the deck, so the percentages do change.

[Silent A]

They can't be all that similar because on the river you have 60 5-card combinations in Omaha, but only 28 5-card combinations in Hold'em. This makes high hands significantly more probable.

As for the OP, if and when you find this information, it won't be all that helpful - which is probably the main reason this is hard find. That said, the average final best hand for random opponents (i.e. not including you) is (approx):

1 opp : mode = 2 pair, median = 2 pair
2 opp : mode = 2 pair, median = 3 of a kind
3 opp : mode = 2 pair, median = straight
4 opp : mode = straight, median = straight
5 opp : mode = straight, median = straight
6-9 opp : mode = full house, median = flush

That's if everyone goes to the river

[Silent A]

Oh, and a warning. Don't use the above info too literally since every single hand will depend on board texture.

[rootdown]

where did you find the chart for hold em? that would at least be a starting point. I have sifted through all kinds of things and can't remember what i have seen. except that i have not found the omaha chart i am interested in.

[mindcirkus]

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They can't be all that similar because on the river you have 60 5-card combinations in Omaha, but only 28 5-card combinations in Hold'em. This makes high hands significantly more probable.



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How many different combinations you have has absolutely nothing to do with an odds chart. Odds charts only require you know how many outs you have, the number of possible combinations is completely irrelevent. When you look on an odds chart you look at the number of outs you have, and whether or not you have one or two more cards to come.

Again like I said, an Omaha chart would be very similiar to a Holdem chart. The only difference is there are two more unknown cards in a hand of Holdem, 47 on flop and 46 on turn, as opposed to 45 on flop and 44 on turn for Omaha. Unfortunately I have not been able to acquire an Omaha odds chart, but I'm sure they are out there.

[Silent A]

OK, but then you're talking about something very different from what the OP is asking for. He's not asking for an "outs odds chart".