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Old 07-30-2007, 10:40 AM
charly charly is offline
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Default Re: NL50 AJ on AQJ flop

push it,baby push it. two pair ! on that stakes against maniacs ..
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: NL50 AJ on AQJ flop

Why is 3 betting such an automatic decision for most people? Every table plays different, you can't just say 'we have AJs against a loose players CO open, I 3-bet'. What's his 3-bet calling range? Does he bluff a lot postflop?

Villain here opens way too many hands, we have position on him, and he is passive postflop. Who says we are folding to a c-bet if we miss? Why can't we bluff raise? Or float and bet the turn if he checks?
3-betting pre is a bluff against most villains, so as others have said, I'd rather do it with 76s.

We may even win a decnt pot if he has KJ/AT, hands he probably folds to a 3bet pre.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:55 AM
hunt1897 hunt1897 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 AJ on AQJ flop

Call the flop. Don't RR here. You have hit the perfect flop here to go broke with.

As played, Call. But you are beat here a lot. Since you RR pre-flop. Hard to fold now.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: NL50 AJ on AQJ flop

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We may even win a decnt pot if he has KJ/AT, hands he probably folds to a 3bet pre.

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This player and most poor players at this level would happily call with KJ/AT.

It's the 2/3 times we miss with AJ is why i dont like calling primarily. I dont think hands like KQ, AJ, KJ, QJ etc play well cold calling pre flop raises.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:13 AM
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I dont think hands like KQ, AJ, KJ, QJ etc play well cold calling pre flop raises.

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I agree with that.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:12 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: NL50 AJ on AQJ flop

This is a redic easy 3bet preflop. We have the best hand like always, and we can 3bet for value, cos he'll call it with pretty much any 2 cards he raised with.

Also, calling preflop is certainly +EV. We have a very nice hand, in position, vs a fish, obv calling > folding preflop. It really seems like you guys are scared to play poker.

IMO preflop 3beting >> calling >>>>>> folding

Obv on the flop its an easy call...we have 2 pair vs a fish in a rr pot FFS
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:16 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 AJ on AQJ flop

I want to mention that while I think 3betting is the best play I do agree that calling is better than folding....I just much much prefer 3betting here.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:03 PM
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This is a redic easy 3bet preflop. We have the best hand like always, and we can 3bet for value, cos he'll call it with pretty much any 2 cards he raised with.

Also, calling preflop is certainly +EV. We have a very nice hand, in position, vs a fish, obv calling > folding preflop. It really seems like you guys are scared to play poker.

IMO preflop 3beting >> calling >>>>>> folding

Obv on the flop its an easy call...we have 2 pair vs a fish in a rr pot FFS

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QFT, listen to Dan Bitel. He gives good advise.

Against a Tag I fold this.
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