TPTK

[recallme]

Game #4681396024: Hold'em NL ($2/$5) - 2007/06/13 - 22:30:37 (DST)
Table "Heartsdefender" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: loibedo ($500 in chips)
Seat 2: nameless ($337.82 in chips)
Seat 3: mrlose ($1099.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Dentist1 ($193 in chips)
Seat 5: Lattice ($496.30 in chips)
Seat 6: MikkeMus ($494 in chips)
mrlose: posts small blind $2
Dentist1: posts big blind $5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to mrlose [Qh As]
Lattice: folds
MikkeMus: folds
nameless: raises to $15
mrlose: raises to $50
Dentist1: folds
nameless: calls $35
----- FLOP ----- [Qs 9s Jc]
mrlose: bets $85
nameless: raises to $175

Villain is 42/24/1.7
Am i pushing or folding?

[wpr101]

I'm not really sure. Seems like a close decision.

[KingGordy]

Given the stack sizes here betting the flop without the intention of felting it seems pretty bad. It's kind of sick that villain chose to minraise instead of push given he has so little behind, but I think you have to felt it anyways.

[BDaws]

[ QUOTE ]
Given the stack sizes here betting the flop without the intention of felting it seems pretty bad.

[/ QUOTE ]
Betting/folding this flop would be fine against some villains and with different stack sizes, right? Especially considering we have the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] making it less likely he is semibluffing a draw?

And, we should be continuation betting in this spot pretty close to 100% of the time, right?

Sorry if these are easy questions, I have been playing 3 bet pots poorly as of late.

[yoshi86]

[ QUOTE ]

Betting/folding this flop would be fine against some villains and with different stack sizes, right? Especially considering we have the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] making it less likely he is semibluffing a draw?

And, we should be continuation betting in this spot pretty close to 100% of the time, right?

Sorry if these are easy questions, I have been playing 3 bet pots poorly as of late.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes but this guy has like 2/3 a BI. Call this [censored].

You should throw out a CB >70% of the time. It depends on the board.

[paradroid12]

Push and pray for 2s 3s. I stoved a big (and probably overly-generous) range for villain. Looks only slightly more like a combo draw than a monster to me (but what do I know). Be glad he has not much behind and felt it, I think.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

133,650 games 0.010 secs 13,365,000 games/sec

Board: Qs 9s Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.204% 48.51% 02.70% 64830 3604.50 { AsQh }
Hand 1: 48.796% 46.10% 02.70% 61611 3604.50 { 99+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo, T9o }

[BDaws]

paradroid12,
He only needs to call 202.82 more in a 477.82 pot, or .2980 equity to break even.

Against a narrow range of JJ+, 99, AQ and KQ we are roughly breakeven. This is a fairly narrow range, but the postflop minraise on this kind of board when he can easily push himself makes me believe he does have a fairly narrow range.

That said, he is a shortstack and could be doing something retarded or semibluffing in a weird way so I call.

[thatpfunk]

if you bet the flop you have to get it ai imo.

[cheet]

[ QUOTE ]
paradroid12,
He only needs to call 202.82 more in a 477.82 pot, or .2980 equity to break even.

Against a narrow range of JJ+, 99, AQ and KQ we are roughly breakeven. This is a fairly narrow range, but the postflop minraise on this kind of board when he can easily push himself makes me believe he does have a fairly narrow range.

That said, he is a shortstack and could be doing something retarded or semibluffing in a weird way so I call.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yep, this is a +EV call