how much do you actually enjoy poker?

[Hawklet]

I think the question would be better phrased as:

"if, instead of poker, you had to spend the same amount of time locked in a room doing nothing to earn the money"

[limon]

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a couple of friends of mine have been on serious losing streaks recently and i asked them, if given the choice to never play poker again but just receive a check each month based on their historical win rate would they take it? both said yes. i told them both that that is the reason they are losing.

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I think 95% of casual players would answer 'yes' here, and over 75% of pros would as well.

the numbers would be similar for most jobs in the world.

I don't think it has to do with enjoyment as much as it has to do with having the 'desire to improve/move up the ranks' heavily outweigh 'laziness'. given the way you phrased the question, the former outweighing the latter would be rare.

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lol...many people play poker when they're bieng "lazy". or are viewed as lazy if they play cards instead of "working". how lazy do you have to be to enjoy cards but not have the energy to play if you could just collect the paycheck.

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maybe I misunderstoof your OP, but I'm saying that

not working and receiving X Dollars >>> working and receiving +/- X dollars

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since when is poker work? when 2,000 people check into the RIO and pay $200 a night do they really think they are going to work? it seems once you see poker as a job you're toast. becuase everyone hates work and when you employ yourself you can fire yourself/slack off. many pro poker players are "quitting" their job and dont even know it.

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would you rather get money for doing something, or money for doing nothing? nothing, obviously. which is why the question in your OP is loaded and the answer is obvious. it has little to do with the activity in question.

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no. because they have to do something. they have to give up poker.

[MicroBob]

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how much do you actually enjoy poker?

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I'm reading this thread instead of playing like I should be. Does that answer your question?

[limon]

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I think the question would be better phrased as:

"if, instead of poker, you had to spend the same amount of time locked in a room doing nothing to earn the money"

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this isnt bad. better than locked up is just hang out at the casino but not play. you get your ev for every hour you're there.

[Hawklet]

This question is only difficult for a degenerate gambler to answer.

[limon]

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This question is only difficult for a degenerate gambler to answer.

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i think its easier for them. they would take the money instantly and use it to play craps.

[PITTM]

im surprised 100% of people wouldnt take a check for their historical winrate. Assuming theyre convinced theyre winners...

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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a couple of friends of mine have been on serious losing streaks recently and i asked them, if given the choice to never play poker again but just receive a check each month based on their historical win rate would they take it? both said yes. i told them both that that is the reason they are losing.

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I think 95% of casual players would answer 'yes' here, and over 75% of pros would as well.

the numbers would be similar for most jobs in the world.

I don't think it has to do with enjoyment as much as it has to do with having the 'desire to improve/move up the ranks' heavily outweigh 'laziness'. given the way you phrased the question, the former outweighing the latter would be rare.

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lol...many people play poker when they're bieng "lazy". or are viewed as lazy if they play cards instead of "working". how lazy do you have to be to enjoy cards but not have the energy to play if you could just collect the paycheck.

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maybe I misunderstoof your OP, but I'm saying that

not working and receiving X Dollars >>> working and receiving +/- X dollars

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since when is poker work? when 2,000 people check into the RIO and pay $200 a night do they really think they are going to work? it seems once you see poker as a job you're toast. becuase everyone hates work and when you employ yourself you can fire yourself/slack off. many pro poker players are "quitting" their job and dont even know it.

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would you rather get money for doing something, or money for doing nothing? nothing, obviously. which is why the question in your OP is loaded and the answer is obvious. it has little to do with the activity in question.

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no. because they have to do something. they have to give up poker.

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ok, but still, unless the activity in question is something they enjoy to a huge degree (like sex), you're not going to get many people answering yes to this question, particularly if the money in question is significant in any way.

I think lots of people like poker. I think very very few love it enough to the extent you asked in your op.

[limon]

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im surprised 100% of people wouldnt take a check for their historical winrate. Assuming theyre convinced theyre winners...

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i wouldnt. i get some joy from poker, some sense of accomplishment, some comraderie, some skills that transfer to other parts of my life. just not more than 8 hours a week worth at this point.(and none online anymore)

[Kneel B4 Zod]

I'll bet you that if you post your question as a poll on the strat forums here (high stakes), you'll get > 70% of the people to say they would quit poker in exchange for a monthly check.