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Old 11-01-2007, 04:01 PM
CPOner CPOner is offline
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

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On a side note, I really find it disturbing that since the scandal came out, there is absolutely no drop in active players on Absolute according to pokersitescout. It kinda indicates that the vast majority doesn't care which is kinda dangerous.

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im sure many dont even know

i still run into players that have zero clue about the whole thing... and others that know something happened, but have no idea of the true(?) story

problem is, AP has a greater ability to spread their side of the story than 2+2ers

any publicists out there in the poker world that want to help spread the word? maybe someone should look into hiring the PR firm that AP never paid? im sure they would do the work for dirt cheap
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

Seif knows AP would get smoked to a crisp in a US courtoom.

Paying people back what was stolen from them would be a tiny sliver of any financial settlement.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

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mystery solved!


NOW i believe it all! Thanks for clearing everything up!

Maybe its just me and my strange behavior...

but i leave the sinking ship before its completely underwater... some passengers on the titanic hung around to see if it was really sinking or not too... horrible call on the river

no i dont think its reasonable to wait and see what happens (check)

we know what happened. your bosses stole from its customers, period. the hows and whys are irrelevant. if you are truly disgusted by what was done by the heads of the company your face and reputation are attached to, you should of left a long time ago.

Facts that are not disputable:
People near the head of the company stole money from valued customers
Accusations were made
Deny Deny Deny
Evidence surfaced of the theft
Deny Deny Deny
Knowledge of said evidence started to spread
Admit of a theft, but invent a story that doesnt incriminate the real perpetrator
Apologize apologize apologize
Promise to fix it all
More evidence surfaces
Change story
Silence silence silence

as far as the hand history thing goes...it follows a similar pattern as above

accusations are made
ignore ignore ignore
accusations are brought up again nearly 2 years later
deny deny deny
no evidence, you'll get it for us
promise promise promise
story change, HH not available (with really bad reasoning)
apologize apologize apologize
missing HH story torn to shreds by sheer logic
evidence supposedly about to surface
change story, HHs might now be available

im not even really convinced that Seif cheated (what do i know, i just know what ive read)... but his words and actions sure arent helping his case in the least

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It's all a Right Wing conspiracy made up by Dan Druff and gang, and he should be sued for helping people ripped off by thieves get their money back.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:06 PM
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this is why i basically believe mark seif, and don't believe the icfishies guy.

besides, the icfishies guy retractred his statement. actually it was his friend who retracted it.

mark seif should not be hung out to dry and have his reputation dragged thru the mud because of slime ball AJ Green.

AJ Green needs to be imprisoned in Costa Rica for his crimes against us poker players not Mark Seif

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Good [censored] lord you people are stupid.

There was NO statement retraction
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

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AP is paying out quicker than ever so I guess they are OK to it's player base.

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I agree. Payouts (epassporte) took 2-3 days to clear before the scandal. The instant the story broke, payouts began clearing in 2-3 hours!
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

it is very much like the rape case, as the accusers (seif and girls who got raped) both lied from the beginning and continued to lie until the truth came out! that is a great analogy mr seif!

also when i saw lacrosse, i was like "WTF??! girls raping people?" then i realised that american males play
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

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AP is paying out quicker than ever so I guess they are OK to it's player base.

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I agree. Payouts (epassporte) took 2-3 days to clear before the scandal. The instant the story broke, payouts began clearing in 2-3 hours!

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And Mark seif was an Owner before the scandal and the instant the story broke hes just a poor spokesman that cant get a single Hand history.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

Greasy-Cheesy Weasel
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

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lol @ not resigning b/c the investigation is still "ongoing". ppl cheated. AP admitted they cheated. anyone who cares about his own integrity and of the company he represents would have quit instantly. it is obvious he is more involved with the company than just as a spokesperson

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this is beyond absurd. mark seif's association with AP is potentially worth 10's of millions. only a complete dumbass would quit.

if he had no part in this scandel why should he suffer.

the only people who should suffer and be imprisoned are those that pulled this off.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Mark Seif responds 1/11/07. Most amusing!

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lol @ not resigning b/c the investigation is still "ongoing". ppl cheated. AP admitted they cheated. anyone who cares about his own integrity and of the company he represents would have quit instantly. it is obvious he is more involved with the company than just as a spokesperson

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this is beyond absurd. mark seif's association with AP is potentially worth 10's of millions. only a complete dumbass would quit.

if he had no part in this scandel why should he suffer.

the only people who should suffer and be imprisoned are those that pulled this off.

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If the site was to go down because of ripping off customers then he would only have a unrepairable reputation. he's gambling for sure.
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