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Old 11-02-2007, 01:48 AM
apefish apefish is offline
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and enough with the superuser crap...it was an isolated incident and AP is terribly sry it happened and has handled the situation perfectly in every regard...its the user who is too blame and yes he did work for AP but the site had no idea what was going on...currently they are working to figure out who all was affected and reimburse any one that is found to have been cheated out of any money...so back off find something else to bash on...

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has anyone mentioned access to superuser accounts yet?
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: wat r the benifits of beign VIP on AP?

no, not yet
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:10 AM
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They teach you to spell.

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DAMMIT!!!! You stole my line.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: wat r the benifits of beign VIP on AP?

i just know that a few days after the whole scandal surfaced i sent AP an email asking for an explanation. Within two days i received an email back from them explaining exactly what happened and why and what they plan to do about it...while i know this was a huge mess up i am satisfied with the steps they already have taken and the steps they plan to take to keep there site secure in the future...RikaKazak I hate you go SMD and FYI i am currently attending college in you guessed it Idaho
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:33 AM
BTMegaCash BTMegaCash is offline
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Dear Ben,


Thank you for contacting us. We are truly sorry that you wish to close your account with us. We are hoping that you will reconsider your decision to close your account. Please take a moment to see that our desire to be a completely fair and secure place to play is our number one priority.

We have closed the breach that was used to gain the unfair advantage and we have begun refunding players that were affected by it.

We are also currently in the process of a complete 3rd party audit of our systems to ensure that:

• All accounts that gained an unfair advantage are identified.
• All players who were affected, by any players known to be in question, are identified and refunded in full.
• The security breach is permanently closed.
• That processes and audits are in place intended to ensure that no one will ever gain an unfair advantage in our software in the future.

Going forward we intend to continue to engage third parties and the poker community to help us verify that Absolute Poker is completely fair and secure. We will also do everything we can to keep everyone up-to-date on all future initiatives that we engage in over the next weeks, months and years, in order to rebuild the poker community’s confidence in Absolute Poker. We are confident that we will emerge as a stronger company, and will re-earn the trust and confidence of our customers. Our goal is to achieve the highest possible levels of security, privacy and integrity to protect our customers.

Sincerely,

Laine
Team Absolute ~ Management
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--Original Message--
From: pokercashmoney@hotmail.com
Date: 10/15/07
To: support@absolutepoker.com
Subject: RE: From Absolute Poker [#8215235]

As I am obviously cautious about redepositing to your site after this serious security breach is it possible for your site to offer some sort of extra redeposit bonus to those who continue to play on your site. Say maybe a complimentary entry to the 150K guarantee or some other worthwhile bonus to show that you really care about people such as myself returning to your site. Without some sort of extra bonus i think i may have to close my account and move my online poker business elsewhere to sites that have not had these current security breaches.


Ben Taylor



> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:02:50 -0400
> From: Support@AbsolutePoker.com
> Subject: From Absolute Poker [#8215235]
> To: POKERCASHMONEY@HOTMAIL.COM
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> Dear Mr. Taylor,
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> I am the former Grand Chief of the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake and the owner of Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, which holds a 100% interest in Absolute Poker.
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> As many of our players are aware, there has been a security breach in our system that allowed unlawful access to player information that resulted in unfair play. I am writing to you today to let you know what we know so far in order to set the record straight, and to assure you of AP’s commitment to player security. I am sure that this letter will not address all of the questions and concerns you may have, nor will it extinguish the heated discussion surrounding this issue. At this point, our intention is to let you know all we can disclose and to assure you of our continued efforts to keep you informed as best we can as the investigations continue.
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> We deeply regret this situation has occurred. A breach in security in online poker is serious and of great concern to players and the industry worldwide, and this particular situation has been the subject of debate within the poker player community and in the media, giving rise to the creation of several websites and hundreds and hundreds of comments, opinions, and theories of what occurred – some of which are accurate, and some that are not.
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> Like you, I have not been happy that during the initial stage of our investigation, AP has not been more forthcoming in providing a timely or comprehensive explanation on this matter, giving rise to anger, suspicion, and concern on the part of our valued customers. I hope that our customers can appreciate that this remains an incredibly complex and sensitive issue, and I want to give you my strongest possible assurance that we will be as forthcoming as possible on how this breach occurred and what we are doing to remedy the situation.
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> What We Know and Actions We Have Taken
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> AP was notified by a customer that a possible cheating incident occurred during a recent tournament, and in response forwarded players’ hand logs. This disclosure of the hand logs prompted our customers to determine that a more serious security breach had occurred. We immediately launched an internal investigation and also requested a formal audit by Gaming Associates, an acknowledged world-wide expert in audits, interactive gaming tests, and information security.
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> Based upon our preliminary findings, it appears that the integrity of our poker system was compromised by a high-ranking trusted consultant employed by AP whose position gave him extraordinary access to certain security systems. As has been speculated in several online forums, this consultant devised a sophisticated scheme to manipulate internal systems to access third-party computers and accounts to view hole cards of other customers during play without their knowledge. As this consultant was aware of the details of our fraud detection process, the likelihood that the scheme would be uncovered through our normal procedures was minimized. We consider this security breach to be a horrendous and inexcusable offense.
> We will pay for all losses suffered by the affected players as soon as our audit is finished and the amounts are determined. Although we are in the process of attempting to recover all the winnings of this consultant, any unrecovered losses of affected players will be paid by Absolute Poker so that all affected persons will be made whole.
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> Next Steps
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> We are still investigating whether the consultant was acting alone or in concert with others, and it appears at this time that all account holders are innocent of collusion and were unaware of any wrong-doing by the consultant, who was immediately terminated. We continue to investigate this matter aggressively, and all of these preliminary findings are subject to the audits currently underway. We have recently uncovered additional accounts used by the consultant that have not been publicly reported. So as to not compromise the investigation, we are not releasing the names of these additional accounts at this time, and will contact these affected customers individually.
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> The specific allegations of unlawful activity are being investigated both by AP and by the authorized authorities, including the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. We will continue to actively cooperate with these authorities in full compliance with the Regulations Concerning Interactive Gaming. In addition to our own investigation and the audit by Gaming Associates, we have also submitted to an audit by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.
>
> Please be assured that we have corrected the problem that allowed the system to be unfairly manipulated. We are working furiously to increase the safeguards within our systems. While we are satisfied that our systems are secured, we realize that our security systems must be continuously monitored and enhanced.
>
> Without question, this incident has been unfortunate for all concerned, and we will emerge as a stronger company. I realize it will take some time and much more information for AP to re-earn the trust and confidence of our customers who are in doubt of our commitment to the highest levels of security, privacy and integrity. As we move to address and correct this situation, our valued customers have played a vital role in uncovering this scheme through various online forums and have become an active part of the solution.
>
> With my full sincerity, I thank you, and I promise to keep you updated as we bring this situation to a close.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joe Norton
>
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:47 AM
Josem Josem is offline
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i just know that a few days after the whole scandal surfaced i sent AP an email asking for an explanation.

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You are quite simply wrong.

The scandal first surfaced in the middle of September. I launched the website www.absolutepokercheats.com on 21 September.

The continued to deny anything was wrong until mid-October.

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Within two days i received an email back from them explaining exactly what happened and why and what they plan to do about it...while i know this was a huge mess up i am satisfied with the steps they already have taken and the steps they plan to take to keep there site secure in the future.

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How can you possibly claim that you are satisfied with those steps if they have not made those steps public?
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:50 AM
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How can you possibly claim that you are satisfied with those steps if they have not made those steps public?

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They pinky swore, LDO.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:01 AM
BTMegaCash BTMegaCash is offline
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Default Re: wat r the benifits of beign VIP on AP?

i for one take a man at his word and to look at the steps they say they have already taken it looks as if they are really concerned about what happened and fixing the problem
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:11 AM
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i for one take a man at his word and to look at the steps they say they have already taken it looks as if they are really concerned about what happened and fixing the problem

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What steps have they taken?

What steps are they going to take?
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: wat r the benifits of beign VIP on AP?

lol @ ben taylor
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