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Old 08-28-2007, 04:52 PM
Mrage Mrage is offline
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Default 100NL: Flopped btm 2 otb, ugly turn

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $204.20
BB: $103.00
UTG: $172.90
MP: $100.00
CO: $192.25
Hero (BTN): $100.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is a nit, 17/11/2.1 with a 97% fold SB to steal and a 1% 3bet over 750 hands (primarily mined.)</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, SB calls $4.50, BB folds, UTG calls $4.00

Flop: ($16) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11.00</font>, SB calls $11.00, UTG folds

Turn: ($38) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero thinks, against this nitty a villain, should I just check behind? It feels weak but doesn't look like villain shows up with much I beat if I get called, but I can maybe get some of his worse hands to bet the river? This is sort of a weird spot.
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Flopped btm 2 otb, ugly turn

IME villain will call another bet with AQ. I don't think the K changes anything. I think he would have still 3 bet KK and I doubt a player this nitty in the sb would have called with KQs even very often.
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Flopped btm 2 otb, ugly turn

Ok, I think AQ is a big big part of his calling range on flop and preflop. I think I b/f here.

Also, I've seen neilso posted it a few times, how do you find 3 bet %. My searching skills suck and if you could link me/tell me i'd be very appreciative. Sorry for the hijack.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Flopped btm 2 otb, ugly turn

b/f is bad. the only hand which dominates us is QQ/KK.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Flopped btm 2 otb, ugly turn

bet, he won't c/r with worse but he'll call with worse and if he c/r then you can fold.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Flopped btm 2 otb, ugly turn

hmm, reading my first reply again, i think spivey and I are thinking on a 2nd level. What does he think you are double barreling with here? I think it might be a poorly played AK and JJ and we still have to bet. I think we can discount the 88 and 99 enough b/c we hold each of one, and there are one of each on the board (leaving 2 combos of sets, if we discount QQ).

I think we double barrel here and fold to a river bet.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Flopped btm 2 otb, ugly turn

You have a FD - how is that a bad turn card. Easy bet/call
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Flopped btm 2 otb, ugly turn

I guess I overlooked the FD, and at the time I thought the only reasonable draw was JT, which got there, but looking back that's not in his range. This isn't quite as interesting as I made it out to be.

I should have bet, but I checked behind. I called a 2/3 pot bet on a blank river and was shown JJ, good call Heine.
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