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Old 11-27-2007, 04:52 PM
DMMx69 DMMx69 is offline
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Default ITM Stats for 6h SNGs?

wondering what other people get for ITM% for 6h STTs. Also for 1st% and 2nd%

after nearly 2000 SNGs, at various sites, at various buyins (11 to 55), i seem to get as follows:

ITM: 42%
1st: 19%
2nd: 23%

wondering how this compares, specifically the disparity from 1st to 2nd.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: ITM Stats for 6h SNGs?

Im like...

18% 1st
26% 2nd

But I am also new to the 6h STTs and have a small sample size.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: ITM Stats for 6h SNGs?

Since you posted a relevant sample, you get a response [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Over 3617 6-max SNGs, mostly $55+
1st: 19.8%
2nd: 21.2%
3rd: 21.4%
4th: 18.1%
5th: 13.2%
6th: 6.4%

Most of those are FT/Stars 65/35 structure, although 529 were on Party's 60/40 structure.

What I haven't done is see what my equity was chip-wise and how big (small/negative) my HU edge was.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: ITM Stats for 6h SNGs?

it frustrates me to no end that my 1st place finishes lag behind my 2nd. However, I see both of you have similar results. Is this a result of correct low/mid blind play? Tighter early play results in being shortstacked when the game is heads up? Any ideas?
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: ITM Stats for 6h SNGs?

If you need something to do and the internet hasn't changed since the last time you read it, see how many chips you had going in to HU. The ratio of sum(all the chips you had to start HU) to (total 1st/2nd finishes * total chips in play per SNG) should be your skill-neutral 1st/2nd ratio.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: ITM Stats for 6h SNGs?

yeah... ive been debating that.. just is really really tedious! im wondering what a good sample size is for such a statistic? any ideas?
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: ITM Stats for 6h SNGs?

Mine looks like this:
23.2%
21.4%
20.7%

But 2/3 of the tourneys is 5-max
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:38 PM
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...see how many chips you had going in to HU. The ratio of sum(all the chips you had to start HU) to (total 1st/2nd finishes * total chips in play per SNG) should be your skill-neutral 1st/2nd ratio.

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OK, im going to do this. Is there any better way than individually opening up each HH, scrolling towards bottom, and checking stack size upon entering HU?
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:06 PM
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...see how many chips you had going in to HU. The ratio of sum(all the chips you had to start HU) to (total 1st/2nd finishes * total chips in play per SNG) should be your skill-neutral 1st/2nd ratio.

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OK, im going to do this. Is there any better way than individually opening up each HH, scrolling towards bottom, and checking stack size upon entering HU?

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Uh... like pretty much any way is better than that. A bare minimum would be to use PT and sort by finish position, if you have the tournament summaries loaded. People have written programs that do stuff like that for you. Someone was working on a PokerEV-type thing for SNGs which would do all that and more.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: ITM Stats for 6h SNGs?

ok.. right, i meant to open only HHs that i finished 1 or 2 in (obviously)

still, i dont have any better way. it seems that the EV-type software for SNG does not exist? there was a thread on that and i downloaded one such program and it crashed.

any other suggestions?
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