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Old 09-14-2006, 12:40 PM
augie_ augie_ is offline
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Default a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

or maybe not? opponent is totally new.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP folds, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12 BB
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:49 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

66+88+TT factor
JT factor
busted spade factor
unknown retard factor
big pot one bet factor

all these factors would make me call
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Old 09-14-2006, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

Ever since I made a "good fold" on the river in a situation like this when the A spiked and the villain was kind enough to show KJs, I am very hesitant to fold river. factors miles listed would induce me to call as well.

Also, is 3betting the flop a mistake?
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

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66+88+TT factor
JT factor
busted spade factor
unknown retard factor
big pot one bet factor

all these factors would make me call

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he 3bet from the bb. just about all his busted draws arent busted when the a hits. hoping for 66 or 88 is kind of wishful thinking. he 3bet PF, raised the flop and bet an A river

i think this hand is well played, although i probably wouldnt have capped pf
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

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Also, is 3betting the flop a mistake?

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considering i raised/capped out of the blind, led the flop, and he still raised? yes.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:42 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

Ya, I like a river call for one bet in a big pot.

PF: I don't like to cap a pocket pair as low as TT OOP to a three bettor.
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

I wouldn't have folded the river. I like the PF Cap too.
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

put me in the not folding camp. would you fold if river blanked off? i dont think he plays a big ace that way, maybe axss.

also, ace makes a good 3barrel card right?
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:15 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

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put me in the not folding camp. would you fold if river blanked off? i dont think he plays a big ace that way, maybe axss.

also, ace makes a good 3barrel card right?

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both good points. you have to wonder why he isnt "scared" of the ace.

this guy is totally unknown and, on his first hand at the table, has done nothing but bet and raise at every opportunity, and the pot is now 12 big bets on the river.
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: a bad TT river fold, 10/20 6max

Easy river call.
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