FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu - Page 2

ItalianFX · #11 05-12-2007, 12:45 AM

Ok, that makes much more sense to me. Thanks Steve and Curtains.

Harv72b · #12 05-12-2007, 12:48 AM

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Italian, he's all in, our flush draw gives us like 36% equity, the gutshot makes it more like 45%+. We're calling bc of the big draw, the bounty makes it easier.

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But with SB still to act behind us & only having about 1500 above the raise, shouldn't we be reraising to ensure a HU pot? Or are we hoping that he then overpushes?

ianisakson · #13 05-12-2007, 12:53 AM

I think you gotta iso push here to prevent the other stack calling, you bricking turn and having no idea what to do again.

stevepa · #14 05-12-2007, 12:59 AM

Oh sure, jam. Sorry, misread the hand a little and thought you were sb. Maybe fold without the bounty then, but probably not.

curtains · #15 05-12-2007, 01:02 AM

Oh I didnt notice the SB either [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'd go allin anyway, bounty too huge. What is the buyin, it's less than the bounty right?

Harv72b · #16 05-12-2007, 01:06 AM

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Oh I didnt notice the SB either [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'd go allin anyway, bounty too huge. What is the buyin, it's less than the bounty right?

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I definitely could've made the OP more clear, my bad.

Bounty is equal to the buy-in, less fee.

FWIW, I just called & immediately thought I should've pushed--thanks for helping me add one more known mistake to my tourney. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

nath · #17 05-12-2007, 04:28 AM

calling and not pushing isn't terrible either b/c since you have to hit to win anyway, it's not bad if SB comes along unless he specifically has a higher flush draw

registrar · #18 05-12-2007, 07:33 AM

Shove, clean up your outs and don't allow chips to pile up in front.

Harv72b · #19 05-12-2007, 02:08 PM

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calling and not pushing isn't terrible either b/c since you have to hit to win anyway, it's not bad if SB comes along unless he specifically has a higher flush draw

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True, though also if it's Chiu that has the higher FD & I can clean up pair outs by getting rid of SB. But I suppose with the all in & call, SB's calling range is going to be miniscule here anyway.

registrar · #20 05-12-2007, 02:12 PM

I haven't played bounties but if I understand the concept correctly you want to try especially hard to dissuade SB from coming along.