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Old 10-08-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default AQ oop in 3bet slightly deep

Villain Whose House, 20/15 pretty standard/probably good TAG, don't remember too much else about him. I've been playing semi LAG, though not 3betting too much oop.

Who flat calls preflop, specifically because we are 150 deep? (Note that he is CO)

I think he would usually flatcall instead of 4betting with AK because getting in 150 with AK preflop is usually pretty bad without history. So, on the one hand, he looks like he wants to get it in with AK or possibly a 7, but on the other hand I look like I want to showdown cheap with a KK, QQ, or weak ace type hand.

C/shove turn? C/c, c/f riv? c/c both? Fold on club rivers? Bet flop (plan afterwards)? So many options...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (4 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($3079)
BB ($2178)
UTG ($3757)
Button ($405)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $70</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $260</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $180.

Flop: ($530) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $400</font>, Hero calls $400.

Turn: ($1330) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $980</font>
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: AQ oop in 3bet slightly deep

checking this flop is a big mistake, u just ask to get outplayed. i would usually bet small, like 300 no matter if i have AA,AK,KK,QQ or 45. if he calls then check-call turn and probably check-fold river since a river bluff against ur obvious top pair would be pretty retarded.

and yes, flatcalling is probably better, since it keeps hands like lower aces in and you dont get into too much trouble as with reraising and getting called u really have to hit 2 pair or a straight to feel good about your hand if you get significant action.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: AQ oop in 3bet slightly deep

If you lead flop are you folding to a raise?
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: AQ oop in 3bet slightly deep

without any history, probably. note that by betting so small u force him to just call with a flushdraw since shoving would be to big of a risk in relation to the potsize and raising small he wont be able to call a shove from you profitably.
so if you make it 300 and he makes it 800/900 his range is AK/7/air and i dont think risking your 3k stack to pick up that 900 when you are drawing very slim if behind is a good play. in my experience most guys dont fool around too much on ace high flops in reraised pots so i dont think air is very likely.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: AQ oop in 3bet slightly deep

Uuuh. Never fold. Put it like 200bb and I start thinkink of folding. I donīt think that getting it in with AK in 4-handed NL2k game is that bad with 150bb.
I would lead $300 on flop, and get it in on turn if raised. But actually I like your check-call line. Now tank on turn, then call, and check-call any river.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:48 AM
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Default Re: AQ oop in 3bet slightly deep

I kind of like the way you played it.. now shove.

As for pf, (with a full 6 players...esp. if raiser is EP) I'll often just call OOP with 150+bb... I'd rather 3bet a hand like 86s.. but in ur case I think 3betting is good..
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: AQ oop in 3bet slightly deep

lead and fold if RR
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