***NFL OFFICIAL Week 12 Early Games Thread***

[Nonfiction]

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washington is not good

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Campbell is made of glass

[MacGuyV]

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i thought the raiders defense was supposed to be decent

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It was last year. I don't know what happened.

[sixfour]

Crap, Smith scores

[THEOSU]

browns have run on 3rd and 2 with jason wright and on 4th and 1 with lawrence vickers.

is this not pretty much exclusively what jamal lewis brings to the table any more?


grr.

[Zutroy]

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i thought the raiders defense was supposed to be decent

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It was last year. I don't know what happened.

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Warren Sapp is officially "old". There was a good FO piece on him a while back.

[Needle77]

SJax is pretty damn good.

[vhawk01]

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i thought the raiders defense was supposed to be decent

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It was last year. I don't know what happened.

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Culpepper has a demonstrable effect on his own defense, he makes them absolutely horrible. In Minnesota he made their pass defense perennially ranked in the bottom 2 or 3, now that he is in Oakland he is making their rush defense the worst in the league.

Which really goes to show his versatility.

EDIT: Wow, Culpepper actually IS the anti-Vince Young.

[doubLe a tom]

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SJax is pretty damn good.

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qft

[Russ M.]

looks like the early games are gonna be hysterical fun, lots of scoring already

[sixfour]

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SJax is pretty damn good.

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And his TD is nullified really really quickly