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Old 11-19-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

in 100 hands, hero prolly only opened 20ish. so 3 3bets is a relatively high frequency.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

But we are opening up from MP not a good steal pos like CO or BTN.Don't you think he has a legit hand for doing this ?

I mean HERO just 4bet him few hands back and he said he was a TAG ... so would a TAG 3bet light again here or wait for a decent hand?
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

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in 100 hands, hero prolly only opened 20ish. so 3 3bets is a relatively high frequency.

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I didnt take his read to mean that he had 3 bet OP 3 times in the last 100 hands, just that he had 3 bet a total of 3 times in the last 100.


Guess it doesnt really matter anyway, as its a conceptual question.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:17 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

I'd fold otherwise you will probably end up doing something rash. He's oop which makes it more unlikely he's doing this light imo, and there really aren't many good flops for 66.

If it continues you can always move tables.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

Fold. In no way is setmining close here.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

how big would effective stacks have to be to make the $10 call?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

Like 120bbs
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

i fold coz we can't setmine and i'm not thrilled about playing it for pair value
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

yeah easy fold

you really can't do more than setmine postflop because the only other thing you can do is pure bluffing in a 3bet pot where villain will stack off light

87s is an easy call here imho, 66 isn't, because with 87s you can flop a pair and shove over his cbet on a lot of flops and have 25% equity when called instead of 10%


for all of those saying 'call and do more than setmine':

barrin posted a thread like a week ago where he bluffshoved 88 over a light 3better's cbet on a Q73r flop or something ... we did the math and villain has to fold like 60% of the time to make the bluff correct ... making the bluff in itself kinda marginal, not to mention not good enough to make up for all the preflop calls, Q73r is like the best flop you can get too
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

meh, if you four bet him within the last 100 hands he's less likely to be three betting you light here so I fold.
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