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11-30-2007, 11:01 AM
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Flopped quads deep stacked: now what?
Weekly 1/2 game, decent players. UTG raises to $10, I call with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] along with 2 other callers. UTG and I each have around $750.
Flop is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG bets $30, next player folds to me. What do you do on this flop. Obviously, I hope he has a hand he will drop his whole stack with. He's pretty good, so this won't happen with AK or an underpair. At this point, I can only hope he has a strong enough hand. So, I raise to $80. Good raise or not? 
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#2
11-30-2007, 11:03 AM
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Re: Flopped quads deep stacked: now what?
this is a whole level thing. raising is probably good. if there's any chance to stack him, u have to start creating a bigger pot.
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#4
11-30-2007, 11:06 AM
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Re: Flopped quads deep stacked: now what?
No decent player is folding 99+ here and a lot of players will Zeebo down to 22. On the flop, I only call if I think the player left to act will call, otherwise your raise seems fine (assuming it was a 'normal' size raise for this game.) Value bet turn and river and pray he check raises one of them.
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#5
11-30-2007, 11:10 AM
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Re: Flopped quads deep stacked: now what?
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Does he C-bet into 2 players w/ just overs? What's his UTG range of hands? [/ QUOTE ] He MIGHT C-bet into 3 players with AK or AQ, but I doubt it. If this was a C-bet from him, I would expect something roughly around $15-$20, hoping to not be blown off his hand by any pocket pair. His range is any pair, but probably 66 or higher, AK, AQ, maybe KQs.
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#6
11-30-2007, 11:16 AM
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Re: Flopped quads deep stacked: now what?
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No decent player is folding 99+ here and a lot of players will Zeebo down to 22. On the flop, I only call if I think the player left to act will call, otherwise your raise seems fine (assuming it was a 'normal' size raise for this game.) Value bet turn and river and pray he check raises one of them. [/ QUOTE ] This is more or less what happens. I didn't really consider the player behind me since A. He's the worst player at the table. and B. He's very short stacked (maybe $80) and isn't folding a boat here. UTG and I are definately two of the better players in the game, and have a tendancy to play some big pots against each other, so the $50 raise was pretty standard. He then reraises me to $200, which I call after a very slight hesitation. Turn is a brick, he checks, I bet $150. He makes small talk, says only hand that beats him is quads...continutes to ask if I have it. I only say it would be pretty bold of me to raise the flop with quads. He pushes with QQ and wonders why he had JUST added on $400 so he could get his stack even with mine.
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#7
11-30-2007, 11:19 AM
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Re: Flopped quads deep stacked: now what?
Sounds like you played it fine. I really would not consider a player who stacks off with QQ for 300+ BB to be very good. What worse hand is expecting you to felt here?
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#8
11-30-2007, 11:21 AM
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Re: Flopped quads deep stacked: now what?
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Sounds like you played it fine. I really would not consider a player who stacks off with QQ for 300+ BB to be very good. What worse hand is expecting you to felt here? [/ QUOTE ] You might be correct. He only knew that I didn't have AA or KK. And he's right, of course I reraise PF with those. I guess he's hoping I have TT or JJ.
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#9
11-30-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: Flopped quads deep stacked: now what?
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Sounds like you played it fine. I really would not consider a player who stacks off with QQ for 300+ BB to be very good. What worse hand is expecting you to felt here? [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No decent player is folding 99+ here and a lot of players will Zeebo down to 22. [/ QUOTE ] interesting.
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