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[brettbrettr]

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ok, perfect.

i 3 bet, he 4 towns.

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Say f**k and call.

[d10]

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hobbs interesting, i was leaning more towards folding, but i grumbled and called

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You can't fold here.

[rt1]

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hobbs interesting, i was leaning more towards folding, but i grumbled and called

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You can't fold here.

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i know, i never ever do, but i like to think about it

[Joe Tall]

Raise and call a 4-bet. Breathe in deep and out very slowly if he rolls 99.

[stinkypete]

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hobbs interesting, i was leaning more towards folding, but i grumbled and called

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You can't fold here.

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i know, i never ever do, but i like to think about it

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thinking about folding to the 4-bet is dumb.

[DeeJ]

love the title, it explains everything.
3 bet cuz you are beating a load of 2 pair hands. If he has trips well too bad. call a 4 bet although it'd be interesting to know how often even a terrible player would 4-bet with a hand that u beat.

[freewheeler]

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it'd be interesting to know how often even a terrible player would 4-bet with a hand that u beat.

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purty-near never I think. The correct answer to this question may well be a strong indication to fold...

But how often can it be correct for a value 3bet on the river to fold against a bad player for one more? I, for one, do not have this fold in me... but I am definitely 3-betting the river all day long with top 2 on this board.

[tpir]

Was this a live hand? If so, I would 3-bet, call a 4-bet, lose to 32, get annoyed, and then do the breathing exercise that JT prescribed [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[JacksonTens]

Against some players I'd bet/call, but I don't mind a 3bet/call here though his play screams a set.

Lots of players OL in LP with smallish PP, this really looks like 44,55 thats my bet for this one

JT

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it'd be interesting to know how often even a terrible player would 4-bet with a hand that u beat.

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purty-near never I think. The correct answer to this question may well be a strong indication to fold...

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I thought about this as well, but the type of player I'm thinking of would also be scared to 4-bet anything but the nuts, or very close to it, and I think 23, AA, and JJ are unlikely holdings. If he's 4-betting lesser hands than that (and it looks very likely that he is), I think it's also reasonable to assume that he'll 4-bet worse 2 pairs at least often enough to make calling correct.