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Old 11-02-2007, 04:17 AM
baltostar baltostar is offline
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

You could ask Mark Seif to play your hand for you ... ?
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

I'd fold and be really pissed about it and make a tilty resteal against Mark Seif with 103o, but he'd snap call me with J3 becuase he can see my cards.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

Wow. Like, don't raise that much. You managed to turn your hand into a bluff preflop with a single raise which is, well, wow. Yes, we have JJ. Yes, he could have AK.

But this is actually like KK or AA every time. Fold.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:01 AM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

I wouldnt mind just checking your option, esp if you dont know what to do now but I can see why you make the big raise.. what you should do, I dunno, close, think its a call.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

If you dont have a read on him, he doesnt have a read on the table either. Limping from EP without knowing whether limping is contagious at the table is a huge risk with AA/KK. At unknown tables I think those hands are more likely to min-raise. I think middle pairs are a huge part of his range and this is a reshove.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

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I'd fold and be really pissed about it and make a tilty resteal against Mark Seif with 103o, but he'd snap call me with J3 becuase he can see my cards.

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Wow, it is really funny that you say this.. I will get to it later
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!


I FOLDED and I wanted to puke, especially because of the amazing pot odds I was getting and the decent chance I was racing vs. AK

I folded because…..

I still have a good stack of $87,000 or so with blinds at 1500/3000/300.

I could not see him bluffing off his whole stack on the first hand of the day.

There were three (3) short stacks of about 30K that were not going to last long.

Like someone mentioned: First was 88Kish, Ninth was 5Kish…

I felt it was most likely he had AA-QQ, AK, AQ….Felt like I was racing at best

I am One position to Mark Seif’s Left

I didn’t have a read on him, had no idea what the play meant. All I knew was that he open-raised a lot of pots at the other table (from what a friend told me), so the limp re-raise felt a little fishy



It sucks because I will never know if it was a good or bad laydown [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

You made a good lay down
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

So...how did you end up placing?
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: I\'m at Final Table of Caesars Palace Classic. First hand.... Help!

good fold given what i said earlier, and btw this is always QQ-AA and most often KK.
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