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Old 09-22-2007, 07:25 AM
viciouspenguin viciouspenguin is offline
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Default Re: Live 10/20, surprising river check/raise

anyone who thinks river isn't an auto-fold hasn't played the bellagio 10/20 game. or hasn't played live period. easy easy fold
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:33 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: Live 10/20, surprising river check/raise

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anyone who thinks river isn't an auto-fold hasn't played the bellagio 10/20 game. or hasn't played live period. easy easy fold

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ive done both, and i dont agree, hardly an easy fold. it's probably a fold, but that normally doesnt stop me from calling anyway.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:27 PM
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anyone who thinks river isn't an auto-fold hasn't played the bellagio 10/20 game. or hasn't played live period. easy easy fold

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Agree. I never ever call here.
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:47 PM
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anyone who thinks river isn't an auto-fold hasn't played the bellagio 10/20 game. or hasn't played live period. easy easy fold

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I play a ton live at right around these limits but only in Vegas 3-4 times a year for a week or so.

Im also not a huge fan of the Bellagio games at this limits(rough lineups) or the Bellagio as a whole really anymore.

I already said id lean towards folding without a strong read or tell...but I dont think this is an auto-fold without alot of experience playing the opponent.

Like I said I probably end up mucking it...like the vast majority of the time.

Is the 10-20 that predictable at the bellagio..\
(I ask because im going in 4 weeks and might take a shot in that game even though it isnt THAT live imho)
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:35 AM
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Is the 10-20 that predictable at the bellagio..\

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I've only played there four times, but from what I've found there are A LOT of regulars that play tight, solid and very straightfoward. They will adjust depending on their opponent, but they aren't going to be pulling moves like river check/raise bluffs.

There are some aggressive players that can really play, but they're the minority.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: Live 10/20, surprising river check/raise

how is anybody advocating a call? basic handreading..?
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:02 PM
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anyone who thinks river isn't an auto-fold hasn't played the bellagio 10/20 game. or hasn't played live period. easy easy fold

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Old 09-23-2007, 05:49 PM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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Default Re: Live 10/20, surprising river check/raise

those of u saying its ez fold at bellagio, what would you do if it was commerce?
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:27 PM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
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those of u saying its ez fold at bellagio, what would you do if it was commerce?

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those of u saying its ez fold at bellagio, what would you do if it was commerce?

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was there this weekend. at commerce you push and get called by 65. ;-)

i fold unless he gives me a reason to call (physical tell or major history). most players at that level have a tough time making huge bluffs then staying cool while you're thinking, unlike 20-40 / 25-50.

i like checking, betting $180-ish for value and to induce a bluff, or betting $800-ish on that river depending on opponent and recent history, but would only rarely bet half pot. also fwiw i've also made many a $100 value bet there against nonaggro opponents and gotten called by ace high or worse a ridiculous percentage of the time.
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