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Old 11-06-2007, 12:17 PM
intel intel is offline
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Default $5k NL stars is this a snap call?

Villain is solid no stats, table is new

Poker Stars, $25/$50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BB): $8,464
UTG: $2,972
CO: $2,996
BTN: $4,975
SB: $2,875

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $150</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $450</font>, BTN calls $300

Flop: ($925) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $700</font>, BTN calls $700

Turn: ($2,325) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($2,325) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1,555</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3,825 and is All-In</font>,
hero?
[$5,435 Pot]

River plan was to bet/fold to a shove?
but do villains shove here often enough to warrant a call?
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: $5k NL stars is this a snap call?

Not a big fan of preflop, lots of people probably fold this river, but I call because I like seeing what they had.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: $5k NL stars is this a snap call?

what is your stars nick? i would def call down here. think preflop is pretty bad btw. villains nick?
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: $5k NL stars is this a snap call?

timex give villain a hand range
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: $5k NL stars is this a snap call?

Its tough to say since so many hands hes not playing this way 100% of the time.

I'd say he'll play KK/QQ/66 this way a relatively small % of the time.

I don't think he'll have other boats here like ever, I don't think hes value shoving here particularly light, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone plays AA like this some % of the time.

I think hes playing flushes like this fairly frequently, but I really think that hes going to have a missed JT, or some Qx type hand that hes turning into a bluff more than like 22% of the time or whatever you need to be able to call profitably.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: $5k NL stars is this a snap call?

I think you are forced to call. There is no way he could put you on a 3, therefore, that alone expands his bluffing range on the river.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: $5k NL stars is this a snap call?

could he be shoving AK or AA for value?
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: $5k NL stars is this a snap call?

apparently he put me on KQ and shoved AK to get me to fold, so somehow he turned AK into a bluff. But i folded and he might be talking crap
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