AA opens and gets soooooo much action pre flop. Shall we shove???

Adrian20XX · #1 09-07-2007, 02:34 AM

Hi,

I have a question regarding these two hands.

In the first one I open for 4BBs being UTG (table has 7 players, player in early position raises to 10BBs, I re-raise to 20BBs, and guy re-re-raises to 40BBs, all pre flop.
So here I had a decision, and decided to flat call, as he only is ahead 1 in 10 times on the flop, and with his 20BBs raise he does not get his proper odds (and we also have re-drawing odds).
So I flat called and flop came King High, I lead with 20BB, guy re-raised to 50BB, and I pushed the rest of my buy in saying "I puke to your KKK", knowing I was behind but as I had played properly I had to pay. I forgot I was playing at PokerStars, so turn comes Ace.

Next hand is Blinds Battle, one player limps early, I raise on the CO with AA to 6BB, SB re-raises to 17BB, and I decided to re-raise him again to 35BB. So, he can't resist the temptation and calls, plus as I was in late position I could had a less strong hand.
So now flop comes 8 high, he checks, I bet 10BBs to our 70BB pot in order to look weak and he flat calls. Turn comes 8, he checks, I bet 18BBs to our 90BBs pot in order to continue to look weak so he shoves, and he re-raises me all for an extra 27BBs (I didn't reload on time here). I obviously call, and river comes blank.

So, what you would do in these cases, specially the first one? Would you have flat called pre-flop or shoved? And from the KK side, what had you done if you got shoved pre-flop after your re-raise to 40BBs?
No read of any player from any player.

TIA & Regards ...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($97.15)
CO ($81.75)
Button ($40)
SB ($111.60)
BB ($113.10)
Hero ($96.50)
MP1 ($88.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $10, 4 folds, Hero raises to $20, MP2 raises to $40, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($81.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, MP2 raises to $50, Hero raises to $56.5, MP2 calls $6.50.

Turn: ($194.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($194.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $194.50

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($119.70)
Hero ($90.10)
Button ($97.40)
SB ($163.70)
BB ($100)
UTG ($136.80)
UTG+1 ($100.90)
MP1 ($107.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, SB raises to $17, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $35, SB calls $18.

Flop: ($72) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10.

Turn: ($92) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, SB raises to $49, Hero calls $27.10 (All-In).

River: ($182.20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $182.20