($11) I have Q's and an overpair, but ... (early)

Ampelmann · #1 03-02-2007, 10:52 AM

4th hand in the turney. I haven' played with anyone before. I guess I should either raise a bit more preflop or simply call.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1580)
Hero (t1460)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1550)
SB (t1440)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t180, 3 folds, Hero raises to t400, 3 folds, BB calls t380, UTG calls t220.

Flop: (t1210) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets t1100 (All-In), UTG calls t1100 (All-In), Hero goes WTF

Easy fold, I suppose?

Mingdu · #2 03-02-2007, 10:55 AM

I get in trouble here because I am shoving this all day long ... I need to check my HH to see if it hurts me

thanks for posting this ... has made me think

RexWoo · #3 03-02-2007, 10:56 AM

Push preflop. Seriously, what's this min-raise ???

Onn the flop : UTG raised 180 with BB=20 then called. Don't worry about him. BB cold called 400 in a t700 pot, don't worry about him either.

Turbo call.

Kibby · #4 03-02-2007, 10:56 AM

Fold? no way. This is an $11. You have an overpair and an insider to the nuts. You're ahead here more than 1/3 of the time and have outs. You can see both of them have Jx, one with a flush draw, one with a straight draw. its time to gamble a bit.

but you are right, raise more PF.

Oubliette · #5 03-02-2007, 10:57 AM

we're smoked by both their ranges. fold it up.

Mingdu · #6 03-02-2007, 10:59 AM

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Push preflop. Seriously, what's this min-raise ???

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Yeah ... what he said ... I didn't even see that

RexWoo · #7 03-02-2007, 11:00 AM

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we're smoked by both their ranges. fold it up.

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Come on. Mayyyyyyyyyyybe BB has AA, but we have UTG crushed 99% of the time given the action.

Ampelmann · #8 03-02-2007, 11:00 AM

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Push preflop. Seriously, what's this min-raise ???

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Yes, this was actually the error here. It was some misperception since I was a bit distracted on another table.
Turbo call.

Kibby · #9 03-02-2007, 11:01 AM

I was thinking JJ but it could be just as easily AJ or AKs or QJs. . .

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we're smoked by both their ranges. fold it up.

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Come on. Mayyyyyyyyyyybe BB has AA, but we have UTG crushed 99% of the time given the action.

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Oubliette · #10 03-02-2007, 11:06 AM

wait... ppl are calling here? you think we have BOTH of them beat, you cant be serious.