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Old 10-18-2007, 05:56 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: Explain to me why this might be bad

OK, a few of you might have guessed that I am not Hero in this hand. This is a hand that I observed fgators play when I sweated him the other night. And I have his permission to get SSNL's help with his hands so I posted this one because IMO it is fundamentally unsound.

Preflop: Some have said fold, some said 3b, some said call is fine. I think a 3b should be somewhat rare here and happen only in the flow of the game. A fold should be the default play. A call however is perfectly fine...if you play OK postflop.

Flop: I really like DCI's post above and I think he hits the high points of this hand. When a PFR checks that flop, he's most likely giving up on the hand. We should be betting this flop pretty much always with any two cards.

I have a problem with the bet size that fg used. We should really have a small-ranged default value bet size that we use on the flop HU. We should use it unless we have a good reason to deviate from it. It's simple ABC stuff. I think $12 is perfect here. fg bets $8.

We want him to fold his better hands here. So why do we give him a reason to call us? I don't know. Let's value bet it just like we would if we had Ax or 99. Let's bet $12 with our entire range here including air and our heart draw.

Turn This is really a textbook hand for winning a pot without the hand going to showdown. Our hand improves on the turn. He PFR'd and checked both flop and turn. Almost always villain has a real weak hand. IMO we should bet this turn exactly like we would if we have 99.

Because really, what is our plan if we check behind turn and we are stuck on the river with only a pair of 4's. We can't call a bet from him and he is much more likely to call a bet from us on the river than he is on the turn. So, let's bet back there and end the hand most of the time.
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