NL 200: Best way to beat shortstack shover

czGLoRy · #1 11-15-2007, 01:52 AM

there is this guy on FTP who is, hands down, the worst shortstacker ever.
He buys in from $40-$63.50 (?)
He shoves any two cards often. First hand of any game, he shoves. He shoves any decent hand (but sometimes does normal raises)
He shoves after he loses a hand
He shoves. Thats what he does.

Also, he leaves when he wins 50% of the time
50% of the time when he loses, he reloads.

-He plays well postflop.
-He understands concepts like the gap concept

He has lost THOUSANDS this week. Whats the best strategy vs him? (He plays HU and 6 max both) (AKA CALLING RANGE)

Spechel EDD · #2 11-15-2007, 01:53 AM

is this a fakepost?

spivey · #3 11-15-2007, 01:55 AM

Find a new table because his strategy is not exploitable.

jvans · #4 11-15-2007, 01:57 AM

Can you tell me his screen name?

ofishstix · #5 11-15-2007, 01:57 AM

call with QQ+ AQs, AKs, AKo.
tighten that range if you are variance-averse.

STARSCREAM. · #6 11-15-2007, 02:18 AM

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Can you tell me his screen name?

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Spread the wealth!

Unless this is a (likely) fake post.

Paul Thomson · #7 11-15-2007, 02:35 AM

screen name: czglory

jk

czGLoRy · #8 11-15-2007, 02:57 AM

naw thats not even me.. lol but no its not a fake post, he is real. He leaves if you don't "call enough". I think QQ + Aqs, is too tight, since he would leave. I believe he plays for "entertainment"

SinkRox · #9 11-15-2007, 05:27 AM

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call with QQ+ AQs, AKs, AKo.
tighten that range if you are variance-averse.

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Sounds like SSer shoves too much for this to be correct. I would loosen up that range alot.

Just depending on my feel for how often he's doing this, determines how low my Ax's and PPs calling range is.

I assume he's doing this with hands as bad as Q9s, K7s some of the time. My calling range would probably be like 99+ and AQo+, AJs+

czGLoRy · #10 11-15-2007, 07:16 AM

If he was shoving every hand, it would be a no-brainer pokerstove equation.

thing is, he goes into "phases"
his shoving range(over few hundred hands) is like this
[27o-2To, 34o-39o, J2-J5o] 20% of the time
[random -KK,AA]
100% of the time first hand after he loses a shove, and first hand at table
[A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J2o+, T7o+] 40% of the time

Deepstacked: (~100bb+, or facing a raise)

[22-QQ, ATo+, KJo+], 40% of the time he shoves

He mixes it up. He plays different. He leaves when he doubles up about 25% of the time, and leaves when he gets stacked 25% of the time.

Whats best way to MAXIMIZE?