River Decision vs. Maniac -- PLO50

[jbird]

Villain running 80/20 and was generally too aggressive for his own good.

Thoughts on river?

Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $242.90
CO: $63.90
jbird: $93.75
SB: $29
BB: $29.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) jbird is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, CO folds, jbird calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.75, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $4.55</font>, jbird calls, BB folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13.85, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $1</font>, jbird calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($15.85, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">jbird raises to $27</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $96.1</font>

StakBundlez7 said, "dont call"
StakBundlez7 said, "FOLD"
StakBundlez7 said, "FOLD"
StakBundlez7 said, "FOLD"
StakBundlez7 said, "ACCIDENT"

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[Praetor]

uh, fold? I

[JanelleBB7]

Do you really think he would bluff like that after you re-raised him? Usually when people talk like that they WANT a call. If it were really a mistake he would say nothing and pray. I definately seen guys do this and they always want a call. This guys is a real jerk though [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[jbird]

I'm talking about the whole river action, not just this decision. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[Elrazor]

im not too sure about your value river raise - i dont see villan dropping any hands we are behind too here, or calling with raggy trips. once he repots im folding even without the trash talk, as J pointed out when you do repot my mistake you usually freeze and hold your breath not start hammering the keyboard

Also on the turn i usually repot these gay blocking bets from unknowns regardless of my holding, unless i have seen them do it with the nuts, which is about as often as i misclick [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Poker monkey]

Bet turn, just call river, no raise...

I don't think raising a river bet with a jack-high flush on a paired board is a very good idea.

As played, fold.

[sqwisssssss]

what make a fish juicy is when they pay you off when you have the nuts.

you have no where near the nuts.......not that it takes the nuts to value raise a maniac, i admire the play, but i dont like it.

this is what i call a feeder spot. just call. if you have the best hand, he is feeding you. if you dont, then you pay the maniac and move on.

idk guys, i think i'm pretty aggressive but after the turn, i really revert to abc poker. maybe that makes me a nit but i'm not big on playing the guessing game.

ummmm, if board didnt pair on river. i would min raise the donk at best.

[Hoopster81]

chat makes this an even easier fold

[sqwisssssss]

[ QUOTE ]
Do you really think he would bluff like that after you re-raised him? Usually when people talk like that they WANT a call. If it were really a mistake he would say nothing and pray. I definately seen guys do this and they always want a call. This guys is a real jerk though [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

hmmmm, i usually play with chat turned off because i notice people at the small stakes get really nasty in the chat boxes. i have to admit it bothers me because it is negative and ugly. i been a live player mostly, and of course, people dont talk nasty crap in live situations........mostly.

but in this case, i dont consider villan a jerk. i think using verbal suggestions is another weapon that can be used and can be +ev if used correctly. he is goading a call.

but i know, the aggressive donk that is winning and goading can be annoying

[Ribbo]

River raise is spew.